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Old 11-08-2008, 05:12 PM
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I'm fine with all of those restrictions.

And I'm going to enjoy all the NRA whackos going ballistic because they won't be able to buy an assault rifle anymore.

Boo.....hoo.......
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Old 11-08-2008, 10:32 PM
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Its not about guns, its about CONTROL and RIGHTS. When one that you enjoy goes away, you will start caring.



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I'm fine with all of those restrictions.

And I'm going to enjoy all the NRA whackos going ballistic because they won't be able to buy an assault rifle anymore.

Boo.....hoo.......
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Old 11-08-2008, 11:56 PM
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Its not about guns, its about CONTROL and RIGHTS. When one that you enjoy goes away, you will start caring.
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I was not a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.


Some day, it will hit on his rights and you can bet he will cry blue murder. Till then, it is fun and games.
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Its not about guns, its about CONTROL and RIGHTS. When one that you enjoy goes away, you will start caring.
The ONLY thing I'm going to do is watch you fellows blow a gasket when your assault rifles and armor piercing rounds are taken away.

I'm also going to enjoy watching you scream and cry about it.

"Oh.....Obama gonna come take my gun.....Obama gonna take my gun"




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Old 11-09-2008, 12:27 PM
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The ONLY thing I'm going to do is watch you fellows blow a gasket when your assault rifles and armor piercing rounds are taken away.

I'm also going to enjoy watching you scream and cry about it.
What is the big deal about assault rifles? As far as I am concerned, it is about somebody that wants to play soldier like they did when they were kids. Except without all the other bad parts like the hard labor, discipline, sacrifice. Pretty much like civilians wearing military fatigues. Why buy them when the military gives them for FREE? Oh, that's right, you don't want the other parts that go with it. I've owned 2 assault rifles in my time. A Chinese SKS and an AK47. Notice the past tense "owned". I came into possession of them simply because somebody needed the money and sold them to me for the money he could not repay. It was either that or nothing. If they were great guns, I would have kept them. Of course there was the appeal of people with the "oohs" and "aahhhs" when they found out I owned them. I could care less about them. Accuracy was not there. OTOH, the AK felt really good in my hands. Too bad it doesn't shoot as well. M16? More accurate. Too light a round for much. So no, I would only own a assault rifle if you gave it to me. For more damage, I would take my 30-06 bolt action as opposed to any of those military rifles. Let the military keep them. The issue is not the assault rifle in this case. The issue is that they are trying to ban one thing at a time as a way to circumvent the 2nd amendment.

Someday, your rights that YOU CARE ABOUT will be taken away. Hopefully somebody is left to laugh then.
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What is the big deal about assault rifles? As far as I am concerned, it is about somebody that wants to play soldier like they did when they were kids. Except without all the other bad parts like the hard labor, discipline, sacrifice. Pretty much like civilians wearing military fatigues. Why buy them when the military gives them for FREE? Oh, that's right, you don't want the other parts that go with it. I've owned 2 assault rifles in my time. A Chinese SKS and an AK47. Notice the past tense "owned". I came into possession of them simply because somebody needed the money and sold them to me for the money he could not repay. It was either that or nothing. If they were great guns, I would have kept them. Of course there was the appeal of people with the "oohs" and "aahhhs" when they found out I owned them. I could care less about them. Accuracy was not there. OTOH, the AK felt really good in my hands. Too bad it doesn't shoot as well. M16? More accurate. Too light a round for much. So no, I would only own a assault rifle if you gave it to me. For more damage, I would take my 30-06 bolt action as opposed to any of those military rifles. Let the military keep them. The issue is not the assault rifle in this case. The issue is that they are trying to ban one thing at a time as a way to circumvent the 2nd amendment.

Someday, your rights that YOU CARE ABOUT will be taken away. Hopefully somebody is left to laugh then.
EXACTLY! And when your rights are in danger of being trampled on and taken away, will you continue to hate me and my guns then?

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Old 11-09-2008, 12:54 PM
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Someday, your rights that YOU CARE ABOUT will be taken away. Hopefully somebody is left to laugh then.
When you can show me with concrete proof that you've got rights to a machine gun or an armor piercing round or an assault rifle...........then, you might have a case.

Othewise, it's just ongoing BS.........you don't have any specific rights to these weapons.........all you have is the right to "bear arms."

And, I agree with your right to own as many handguns and rifles and shotguns as you have the funds to purchase. Anything else is overkill.
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Old 11-09-2008, 01:01 PM
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When you can show me with concrete proof that you've got rights to a machine gun or an armor piercing round or an assault rifle...........then, you might have a case.

Othewise, it's just ongoing BS.........you don't have any specific rights to these weapons.........all you have is the right to "bear arms."

And, I agree with your right to own as many handguns and rifles and shotguns as you have the funds to purchase. Anything else is overkill.
Gee, one could also easily say that you have no right to talk like this either and air this viewpoint and that your post is overkill! Our constitutional rights are an absolute and not to be diluted by any method of constitutional restructuring or restrictionism.

The Constitution acknowledges that the citizenry has the right to match the weapons that could and would be used against them!

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The Constitution acknowledges that the citizenry has the right to match the weapons that could and would be used against them!

It doesn't.

You could also quote Sarah Palin's interpretation of the Constitution.......it won't change the document either.

But, if your're serious and not just crying in your beer.........get out there and buy your Abrams tank and a bunch of mortar rounds.

Let us know how that works out for you.
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Old 11-09-2008, 03:22 PM
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And, I agree with your right to own as many handguns and rifles and shotguns as you have the funds to purchase. Anything else is overkill.
Ah, but you see, what you are saying is one thing. The aim of the limiting of assault rifles and AP rounds is quite another. The anti-gun lobby is NOT going to be content with just stopping this or that item. Their aim is to stop each and every gun. However, the pesky 2nd amendment is in the way. Now what? Well, their way is to limit gun sales till you have nothing left. You keep talking about assault rifles, AP rounds, etc, etc. What seperates your assault rifle from my hunting rifle? Now if you are talking about an assault rifle in terms of a fully automatic rifle, that is one thing. Why don't you tell me what the difference is between your AK-47 (single shot semi auto) vs my semi-auto Remmington 750? Both are semi auto. The only difference I see is that the AK is good at throwing lead at a target while you can shoot dimes with the other. Now, if you tell me that the drive by stabbings are getting out of hand and we have to limit guns with the bayonet on it, I suppose.
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The anti-gun lobby is NOT going to be content with just stopping this or that item. Their aim is to stop each and every gun. .

I'm really not interested in the whims of the "anti-gun lobby". And, truthfully, you have not one whit of an idea of the desires of the "anti-gun lobby". Naturally, at it's fringe, there will be people who will stop at nothing until a ban of every type of gun possible is imposed. There are also people in that lobby that simply want weapons such as assault rifles and armor piercing rounds banned.

So, it runs the gamut. The aim of most of those folks is not to stop each and every gun, despite what you wish to believe.

Like I said, I'm going to enjoy you all twist in the wind when they take your assault rifles away.

"Oh, Obama gonna take my gun..........Obama gonna take my gun.........."

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Old 11-09-2008, 01:46 AM
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I'm fine with all of those restrictions.
Yup, they sound like common-sense restrictions to me. Like I said in another thread, the 2nd amendment doesn't give anyone the right to bear any weapon they like just like the 1st amendment doesn't give anyone the right to say anything anywhere without facing consequences. Frequently it is in discussions like these were common sense is sorely missing.
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Yup, they sound like common-sense restrictions to me. Like I said in another thread, the 2nd amendment doesn't give anyone the right to bear any weapon they like just like the 1st amendment doesn't give anyone the right to say anything anywhere without facing consequences. Frequently it is in discussions like these were common sense is sorely missing.
If your intention is to stop guns from getting into the hands of violent criminals, the insane, etc, etc, I have no issue with it. I'm certainly not for everyone being given a gun. I believe if you are insane or criminally inclined in the violent sense, gun ownership is NOT for you. Just as if you are not doing something illegal, you should be able to PURSUE life, liberty and happiness. Cross that legal line and all 3 might be taken away from you.

However, is that the case here or are they trying to curtail guns one type at a time till there are none left? Using your example of the 1st Amendment, I can also say that you can say anything you want as long as I don't find it offensive and neither will anyone. So yes, you do have free speech. It just happens to have a few "common sense restrictions" along with it.

As I said, few (there will always be some) will disagree with you if you say "I don't want guns in the hands of unsupervised minors, the criminals, the insane, axe murderers, etc, etc". OTOH, the disagreement is present when you try to limit the guns one at a time till there are non left.
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