Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > General Discussions > Off-Topic Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-09-2008, 04:02 PM
aklim's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Location: Greenfield WI, USA
Posts: 8,514
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Carlton View Post
Like I said, I'm hardly the gun expert. Interpret the statement as you see fit.

What did those two clowns have that held off an entire police force for nearly one hour? Their firepower was amazing..........the police were outgunned until the full swat team arrived.
I'm not a ballistics expert either. What you are saying is "I am against assault rifles". Fair enough. I'm just trying to see what it is that the assault rifle has that you are against. To me, a semi auto rifle is a semi auto rifle. Like I said, the assault rifle has the ability to stick a bayonet in it. Maybe a larger magazine but that is about it. I want to know what you think I can achieve with an assault rifle that I cannot achieve with a hunting rifle.
__________________
01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-09-2008, 06:45 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Blue Point, NY
Posts: 25,396
Quote:
Originally Posted by aklim View Post
I'm not a ballistics expert either. What you are saying is "I am against assault rifles". Fair enough. I'm just trying to see what it is that the assault rifle has that you are against. To me, a semi auto rifle is a semi auto rifle. Like I said, the assault rifle has the ability to stick a bayonet in it. Maybe a larger magazine but that is about it. I want to know what you think I can achieve with an assault rifle that I cannot achieve with a hunting rifle.
I used "assault rifle" as an example. If it's a simple semi-auto rifle, I agree with you.

You tell me..........what can an assault rifle do that a hunting rifle cannot?

Questioning me about weapons isn't going to get you anywhere, because, self-admittedly, I'm no expert on them.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-09-2008, 07:34 PM
aklim's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Location: Greenfield WI, USA
Posts: 8,514
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Carlton View Post
You tell me..........what can an assault rifle do that a hunting rifle cannot?

Questioning me about weapons isn't going to get you anywhere, because, self-admittedly, I'm no expert on them.
Problem is that the phrase "assault rifle" is used pretty loosely. If we used the wiki version, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle
* An individual weapon with provision to fire from the shoulder.
* Capable of selective fire.
* Intermediate-power cartridge between pistol and traditional rifle.
* Ammunition is supplied from a detachable box magazine.
Your AK47 and M16 that you buy from the gun store is NOT an assault rifle. Why? See item 2. As to what an assault rifle can do that a hunting rifle cannot, I would say it capable of wasting ammo. It's great for throwing lead in a general direction but if you want to get really specific, it is a hard sell. Take an AK47 at 200 yards and it won't be as accurate as many hunting rifles. Say in the 50 yard range if you just want to throw lead at a target, the AK is your gun. That is why I said that I owned a couple of them. If the guy could pay cash, I wouldn't have owned them.

Now if you are against a rifle having auto fire mode or even burst fire, I agree. If you are against a rifle having an M203 grenade launcher. Sure. That is why I asked you, what it is specifically that you are against. If you want to own an AK or M16, I have no issue with it although those are what the unknowing call an "assault rifle". If you are saying that Citizen Joe should have the right to own a fully auto M16, AK or a 30 cal machine gun, that is different.
__________________
01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-09-2008, 10:22 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Blue Point, NY
Posts: 25,396
Quote:
Originally Posted by aklim View Post
If you are saying that Citizen Joe should have the right to own a fully auto M16, AK or a 30 cal machine gun, that is different.
That would be my primary concern. Selecting "assault rifle" might not have been the best choice.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-09-2008, 10:35 PM
aklim's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Location: Greenfield WI, USA
Posts: 8,514
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Carlton View Post
That would be my primary concern. Selecting "assault rifle" might not have been the best choice.
Probably not. I think it is pretty sleazy to link up a semi auto rifle with a full blown military version which is why they like to use the term "assault rifle" to give people all sorts of visions of Rambo running around shooting up the town.
__________________
01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-10-2008, 06:52 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Atlanta.
Posts: 366
This argument will never go away.

The anti gun crowd will never admit that guns in the hands of law abiding citizens is a good thing because they "believe" banning guns altogether would help.

No, it won't, criminals will still obtain and use them to kill innocent people.

So when the Wife goes shopping, comes out to her car and Joe crack head puts a knife to her throat and demands she get in the car, do you think it might be a good thing if the 90 pound soccer Mom two cars down pulls out her pistol and stops the guy, or kills him if she has to, or would you just hope the Wife does what he says and "hopes" he does not chop her into little pieces her after he brutally rapes her?

Hello, eutopia does not exist and cannot be legislated to existence as long as humans still roam this earth.

The first two people on this earth had a son murdered by another so you can pretty much ban everything you think can be used as a weapon and people will still find creative ways to take advantage of people criminally.

Guns just even the playing field for the little guy.

Hey, if you can't trust yourself with a gun, so be it, just quit crying about the responsible people who can.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-10-2008, 12:08 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Blue Point, NY
Posts: 25,396
Quote:
Originally Posted by cudaspaz View Post
Hey, if you can't trust yourself with a gun, so be it, just quit crying about the responsible people who can.
.........and I suppose that we let you decide who's a "responsible" person and who's not?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page