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C280 Sport 12-04-2008 07:03 PM

Is this a racist comment?
 
As some of you may know I am an older man married with kids who is back at College working on my degree. Today before the lecture there was a boy and his girlfriend sitting infront of me who where eating chips. He left and came back before lecture started and he ask his girlfriend if there where any chips left. She said I finished them off. He says" Damn honey those dissapeared faster then rims at a PDiddy concert" There was this young black man who was sitting a row ahead of them and he turns around and starts yelling and calling him a racist for saying that. He said "Why a PDiddy concert? Why not Fallout boy.Is it becasue Black people go to that concert?"

johnathan1 12-04-2008 07:05 PM

I lol'ed.

Botnst 12-04-2008 07:09 PM

Yes. .... But funny despite the racism.

If Chris Rock had said it we'd all have laughed. I mean, c'mon.

MTI 12-04-2008 07:09 PM

In the context of the young man in the back, yes, it apparently was.

BTW, is it fun having Michael Richards enrolled in class with you?

C280 Sport 12-04-2008 07:17 PM

ha ha ha I thought it kinda funny but I wouldnt of taken it to the extent they did. The yelling at each other over a joke.

POS 12-04-2008 07:23 PM

Sorry, but as far as I'm concerned racism is now officially no longer a primary issue. We have a black president.

The comment above, however, is funny.

SirNik84 12-04-2008 07:24 PM

"Faster then a bucket of chicken on Inauguration Day"

Botnst 12-04-2008 07:24 PM

He's sort of walnut brown.

The Clk Man 12-04-2008 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by POS (Post 2039347)
Sorry, but as far as I'm concerned racism is now officially no longer a primary issue. We have a black president.

The comment above, however, is funny.

I think that Black Americans are not racist as a whole, but there is some that are. Just like white people, I don't think white people are racist as a whole. There are racist on both sides. :)

iwrock 12-04-2008 07:43 PM

I guess it could be racist.



Although, it was kinda funny.

C280 Sport 12-04-2008 07:50 PM

I agree it is funny. I personally wouldnt go saying it in public or expecially a College lecture hall.

BodhiBenz1987 12-04-2008 08:14 PM

Personally, I don't think it was particularly racist until the kid who responded turned it into a race issue. The joke insinuated that folks who attend a PDiddy concert may be the type to steal rims. It didn't say black people steal rims. I don't think it's any different than making a joke about pot at a Grateful Dead concert ... I don't think that would suggest that all white people are potheads, even though most people at Dead concerts are, in fact, white. Most of the friends/aquaintences I have who are black I think would have laughed at the PDiddy joke because they aren't the type of person described in the joke, and anyone who's met them would know that. Then again, I don't know the context of the situation you witnessed ... it could be that the kid who made the joke has a reputation of making racist statements and/or is a general jerk, and the kid who got offended had heard previous offensive comments. I.e., there could have been background that made it more offensive than it was on its own.

MTI 12-04-2008 08:21 PM

One of the many rules of comedy . . . know your audience.

Johnhef 12-04-2008 08:28 PM

You mean Pdiddly isn't white?? no WAY!

Hatterasguy 12-04-2008 08:31 PM

I thought it was pretty funny!:D

My friends keep calling me and telling me they have a new development project for me...a KFC...right across from the White House.:D

Kuan 12-04-2008 09:08 PM

I had to google Pdiddy.

LUVMBDiesels 12-04-2008 09:12 PM

Time for everybody to grow thicker skins.
Now what will happen? he 'offended guy' will lodge a complaint with the school and the 'racist pig' will get expelled. If he wants to go all the way, the OG could call the cops and have the RP arrested for 'hate crimes' Sheesh!

C280 Sport 12-04-2008 09:14 PM

I hope it doesnt go that far. I hope people have better things to do in life ten worry about someone telling a joke.

The Clk Man 12-04-2008 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by C280 Sport (Post 2039481)
I hope it doesnt go that far. I hope people have better things to do in life ten worry about someone telling a joke.

Agreed.:)

tankdriver 12-04-2008 10:24 PM

I didn't think it was funny. If it was, it wouldn't be racist. Since it wasn't, yes it was racist.

yal 12-05-2008 01:04 PM

Wasn't funny at all. It doesn't even make sense unless you inject a racial stereotype into it. So the black kid, although he over reacted responding to an idiot, had a point.

As for the contention that somehow because we have a black president all racism has ceased is preposterous. Last I checked the hate groups in America and all their secret members didn't disband once Obama got elected. In fact his election has probably help increase membership.

Mistress 12-05-2008 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnhef (Post 2039414)
You mean Pdiddly isn't white?? no WAY!

we are all related...

jlomon 12-05-2008 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 2039324)
Yes. .... But funny despite the racism.

If Chris Rock had said it we'd all have laughed. I mean, c'mon.

I think I've actually heard Chris Rock tell a variation of that joke.

aklim 12-05-2008 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mistress (Post 2040024)
we are all related...

Then I am having sex with my relatives? SWEETTTTT! Nothin says loving like family love. :D

Mistress 12-05-2008 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim (Post 2040034)
Then I am having sex with my relatives? SWEETTTTT! Nothin says loving like family love. :D

ahhhh the alter is looking a little on the rough side these days when you gonna visit?

aklim 12-05-2008 01:45 PM

Why does racism get so much traction? After all, think about it. What is racism? A small subset of discrimination. In discrimination, we have age, sex, weight, religion, clothes, education, etc, etc. Why is it my looking down on fat people, ugly people, white trash people, etc, etc seem more benign than me looking down on you because you are black, asian, mexican, etc, etc? What's the difference? Isn't discrimination discrimination? If I look down on you because you are poor or driving a beater car, etc, etc, how is that better than me looking down on black people, white people, green people, etc, etc?

aklim 12-05-2008 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mistress (Post 2040037)
ahhhh the alter is looking a little on the rough side these days when you gonna visit?

Send me the address to go to. I'll have the weedwhacker ready and willing, little sister. :D

G-Benz 12-05-2008 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 2039324)
Yes. .... But funny despite the racism.

If Chris Rock had said it we'd all have laughed. I mean, c'mon.

Agreed.

Jokes are especially funny when there's a slant of truth in them...and that's why the black guy got offended...as long as the issue is kept within the black culture (like the use of the "N" word), it's alright, but if someone outside of the circle makes light of it, then it's offensive!

Sorry...I would have laughed too.

John Doe 12-05-2008 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by G-Benz (Post 2040193)
Agreed.

Jokes are especially funny when there's a slant of truth in them...and that's why the black guy got offended...as long as the issue is kept within the black culture (like the use of the "N" word), it's alright, but if someone outside of the circle makes light of it, then it's offensive!

Sorry...I would have laughed too.

But we got the white keepers of the flame saying its racist, G-Benz, yet you don't seem offended. I'm so confused:confused:;)

t walgamuth 12-05-2008 04:50 PM

Who the heck is PDiddy?:confused:

firemediceric 12-05-2008 05:19 PM

After being called out by the black student, I'm sure the joke teller felt like David Duke at a NAACP meeting.

C280 Sport 12-05-2008 05:48 PM

Its ok I didnt know who he was for a while also.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Combs

riorust 12-05-2008 05:57 PM

Personally I thought it was hilarious and not racist at all.... then I did a Google search for Pdiddy + Rims.... and it became even funnier:D

http://www.body-kitz.com/articles2/seanjohnweb/index.html

I think folks need to be able to laugh at themselves sometimes

Carleton Hughes 12-05-2008 06:17 PM

No,not in the context it was mentioned in.It was quite en pointe,particularly in light of the corrosive Thug subculture previously alluded to.

Reminds me of one of my Gramps's comments. "That damn car is rarer than a safety razor at a pullman porter's convention".

BodhiBenz1987 12-05-2008 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by riorust (Post 2040282)
I think folks need to be able to laugh at themselves sometimes

Agreed ... obviously there's a line, and I guess it's different for everybody. But as a woman, I certainly here plenty of jokes that could "offend" me, but most of the time they make me laugh. There is a huge difference between someone actually discriminating against me because I'm a woman, and someone making a joke about shoes, or crying, or bad driving. I make those jokes myself. I don't take offense at that because I don't consider myself among the stereotype targeting in those jokes ... and anytime I find myself acting like a stereotype, I am able to laugh at myself for it and admit it.

Funny "sexist" incident recently ... I was in Barnes and Noble and picked up an MB Classic magazine off the shelf and starting flipping through it. This man was standing next to me looking at another car mag. As soon as I started looking through my magazine, he absolutely froze, and stared at me as though I'd just whipped out a crackpipe or something. After a long pause, he goes, "A girl? Looking at CAR magazines?", then shakes his head and walks off .... as though is entire universe had just been turned on end. I guess I could have been offended, but instead I just couldn't stop laughing about it the rest of the night.

I guess it all depends on your perspective and what you've been through, or what you've been taught to be offended by. I've never faced terrible discrimination for my gender and was raised to have a sense of humor about the various shortcomings (and blessings) or all types of people, within limits. I wouldn't make fun of mentally handicapped people in front of my sister, who is educably mentally retarded (and knows it), but I never got offended if someone called someone else "retard" when clearly there's no one actually retarded in sight.

Botnst 12-05-2008 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BodhiBenz1987 (Post 2040312)
...

Funny "sexist" incident recently ... I was in Barnes and Noble and picked up an MB Classic magazine off the shelf and starting flipping through it. This man was standing next to me looking at another car mag. As soon as I started looking through my magazine, he absolutely froze, and stared at me as though I'd just whipped out a crackpipe or something. After a long pause, he goes, "A girl? Looking at CAR magazines?", then shakes his head and walks off .... as though is entire universe had just been turned on end. I guess I could have been offended, but instead I just couldn't stop laughing about it the rest of the night.....

Fool should've asked you out for a date.

Carleton Hughes 12-05-2008 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 2040317)
Fool should've asked you out for a date.

Probably a closet queen.

A264172 12-05-2008 07:05 PM

The angrier you are, the more racism you can find.

Hatterasguy 12-05-2008 09:38 PM

If I saw a girl flipping through a Mercedes magazine I would have asked for a date. After staring kind of dumb struck for a few minutes.:D

MTUpower 12-05-2008 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by G-Benz (Post 2040193)
Agreed.

Jokes are especially funny when there's a slant of truth in them...and that's why the black guy got offended...as long as the issue is kept within the black culture (like the use of the "N" word), it's alright, but if someone outside of the circle makes light of it, then it's offensive!

Sorry...I would have laughed too.

I could not agree less on the "kept within the black culture (like the use of the "N" word)". If a black can call a black the "n" word, then everyone ought to be able to do so. The opposite is also true- if "you " use it then "we" should be able to also. If you want everyone to be equal, then the lines of distinction need to be erased- meaning you have to act as if they don't exist. You cannot say "we black people, or we white people" without excluding some other group. When you exclude you invite discrimination.

Botnst 12-05-2008 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MTUpower (Post 2040554)
I could not agree less on the "kept within the black culture (like the use of the "N" word)". If a black can call a black the "n" word, then everyone ought to be able to do so. The opposite is also true- if "you " use it then "we" should be able to also. If you want everyone to be equal, then the lines of distinction need to be erased- meaning you have to act as if they don't exist. You cannot say "we black people, or we white people" without excluding some other group. When you exclude you invite discrimination.

In terms of social equality: It's not a level playing field. It never was. It never will be. Not meaning necessarily in a racist sense. There are plenty of inequalities to choose from and most of them have incongruities that result in humor as well as offense. This is why we teach our children common courtesy.

If I had said that and somebody got offended I would say, "Im sorry if you were offended, it was meant for private conversation." Then let it drop. And I would truly be sorry that I offended the guy. I wouldn't do so intentionally out of the blue.

IMO, humor is best when it isn't personally offensive. But the really best humor skirts right along the edge! If you're going for the gold you gotta expect bruises.

iwrock 12-05-2008 10:28 PM

Bondhi Benz, I dated a chick who was kinda into Mercedes. She has a 16 valve.



My jaw dropped, as I was at Chevron gassing up the wagon, and she was checking the oil in the 16 valve.



I was like "Whoa."

C280 Sport 12-05-2008 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwrock (Post 2040620)
Bondhi Benz, I dated a chick who was kinda into Mercedes. She has a 16 valve.



My jaw dropped, as I was at Chevron gassing up the wagon, and she was checking the oil in the 16 valve.



I was like "Whoa."




Ha Ha. Thats funny. To be honest If was young again and had Mercedes when young I would of introduced myself right there on the spot. The only thing was when I was young Mercedes where not common at all for people under 30.

iwrock 12-05-2008 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by C280 Sport (Post 2040637)
Ha Ha. Thats funny. To be honest If was young again and had Mercedes when young I would of introduced myself right there on the spot. The only thing was when I was young Mercedes where not common at all for people under 30.


I did introduce myself, and we are still friends.



She laughed at me when I introduced myself (being a Mercedes person), but she likes my wagon.


I have some pictures around here somewhere of her 16 valve and my blue wagon.

C280 Sport 12-05-2008 11:01 PM

If you ever find them can you post them? Got a picture of her also. lol just kidding

cmac2012 12-05-2008 11:27 PM

It was sorta funny and would have worked coming from Chris Rock or Chappel but not from a white guy.

The intent was racist. Hard to deny it. Denigration is denigration. I wouldn't have freaked out about it but I wouldn't have said it either.

FWIW, I was once in line at a grocery store in Seattle and one of the checkers was saying something to another one about a woman and ended derisively with, "yeah, well she was blonde."

Tow headed cmac, just behind him, said "Let's not have any racism now."

Dude, balding with dark hair said, "but, but, she was from California."

cmac (doing the horizontal flexing arms backwards routine) says: "Well us blonde people get a little tired of that stuff."

It's just weak $h!t. Running someone else down in a vain attempt to feel superior. Don't be dissing my sister, foo'.

H-townbenzoboy 12-05-2008 11:37 PM

Eh, even if it came from Chris Rock, it still wouldn't have been funny to me. Faster than rims at a PDiddy concert? WTH? BOOOO! Git off the stage! You suck!

MTUpower 12-06-2008 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 2040571)
In terms of social equality: It's not a level playing field. It never was. It never will be. Not meaning necessarily in a racist sense. There are plenty of inequalities to choose from and most of them have incongruities that result in humor as well as offense. This is why we teach our children common courtesy.

If I had said that and somebody got offended I would say, "Im sorry if you were offended, it was meant for private conversation." Then let it drop. And I would truly be sorry that I offended the guy. I wouldn't do so intentionally out of the blue.

IMO, humor is best when it isn't personally offensive. But the really best humor skirts right along the edge! If you're going for the gold you gotta expect bruises.

I agree with all of this. It's when a "group" distances itself and differentiates itself it automatically says to anyone NOT included in the group "we are different". That group now cannot complain that is being treated differently (in a negative OR positive way) since they themselves made the distinction of being different.

Larry Delor 12-06-2008 11:11 AM

Gone faster than the mayonnaise at a white bread family reunion?

Botnst 12-06-2008 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Larry Delor (Post 2040875)
Gone faster than the mayonnaise at a white bread family reunion?

Racist!

You anti-mayonnite!


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