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2. IF the process called for an open election, which admittedly would be unwieldy and costly, the IL. taxpayers, naturally. The process is yours. Whoever goes stands for re-election in two years anyway, correct? Nope. Want to help clean up our crooked statehouse? 3. "Define not all that broken". One Governor in jail? Two? Six? Or are you referring only to the replacement naming and approval process. In any event, it looks like Rod B. is going down swinging. Is this Burris a Dem. "team player" or isn't there such a thing in IL. politics? IOW, if this scandal hadn't broken, would Burris have passed muster and gone off to DC? Or would he have even been named? What do you suppose the guv's motives were in making the appt. Further, what were Burris' motives in accepting? Doing Rod a favor? Enough on this subject. |
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Is th governor guilty of anything?
What I mean is this: Do we really want to have prosecutors convicting people before they go to court? The prosecutor is showboating and I don't like that crap. Arrest the governor and do your duty. No need to do a Oprah Winfrey-type spectacle. |
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The governor is not currently guilty of any crimes, but is under such a cloud that if I were among the short list, I would insist that Blago NOT name me or even say that he knows me.
"Not all that broken" can be defined as this: We will get a replacement senator from IL, it will be achieved with no bribery or quid-pro-quo. In two years, we will vote for a replacement, as is currently state law. To have another election now is a total waste of time and money all around. As for IL taxpayers, I'm one of them. |
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Looks like the seat may be filled with another inflated egomaniac with no substance without a teleprompter and acting classes from George Clooney.
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Looks to me like we don't know what will happen. A lot depends on the the federal suit, and a lot depends on the IL senate. Very little of it would seem to depend on the sitting governor.
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The governor sure looks like a goop. But bear with me as I engage in worst-case paranoia.
What actual evidence have we of wrongdoing? From what I have seen and heard -- nothing. Except for evidence that a prosecutor claims to have. Where have we heard something similar? (Hint #1: Commies; Hint #2: Blowjobs) So ... no evidence other than an unsubstantiated claim compounded by a legislature led by a rival of the governor whose daughter, also a state officer, is a political enemy of the governor. The governor was already terribly weak, given popularity polls. So the wolves take him down -- the slow Russian tossed from the sleigh. I'm just saying that grandstanding allegations compounded by headhunting by political rivals is a toxic mix when searching for justice. It's your state and you know more about it. But this is an outsider's perspective. B |
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An eager prosecutor can manipulate a grand jury, which is one reason we don't use a grand jury to convict people. |
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Sorry Everybody, But ....
If you don't believe he's guilty of various corruption charges, maybe not these specifically ---- Study Chicago / Illinois Politics, OK Politics in general. If you still believe I have the winning mega ball ticket, send me a hundred and I'll send you the ticket. I now know how/why the nigerians keep trying.
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Blogo had to appoint someone. Stay with me on this...
Blogo says he is not guilty. As a matter of fact, he is not and will not be until the jury says, "Guilty." As a practical matter, Blogo has two choices: Turn the state over to the Lt. Gov until his trial is over or just carry on regardless. Looks like he is just going to carry on. Since he is trying to give the impression that he had done nothing wrong he has to appoint someone to the seat or it might look like even he thinks there is something to the aligations. In the old days this was called "Brassing it Out." As far as the Senate seating his pick: They can swear a person in and then vote to throw them out. It can all be done in about twenty minutes. The ONLY way a person can take a seat in the Senate is if the other Senators allow it. Any member can be tossed out by the other Senators. It is not even necessary to present a reason. As a practical matter this is rarely done since it just causes bad blood among the Senators, but when EVERYONE is offended by a Senator's actions it is an option open to them. They can also be impeached, but tossing them out is quicker. Pooka |
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I was having a conversation with someone who should know yesterday and that was the info they gave me, but you could be right. This is not something the average lawyer deals with every day.
I think one thing is for sure, though, and that is the way this thing is going we are all going to find out just how weird this can get. Since I don't live there I can look at this as just a live lesson in civics, and not the Honda kind. I do think that with the way all those around Blogo are piling on him this is a good case of where there is smoke there is fire, but who knows? Larry Craig is still hanging in there. Pooka |
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First here's a good one on Burris.
"A longtime advocate of a national handgun ban, Burris organized Chicago's first Gun Turn-in Day in 1993. But when he ran for governor the following year, he admitted that he owned a handgun ("for protection") and did not hand it over to police as he urged others to do." Gotta love politicians. Well after 2 years of presidential election junk, watching all the corruption trials here in IL, and now this. So per another thread -- WE DO TORTURE, Guantanamo would be a vacation compared to what we've had to endure. My brain hurts. AND it ain't over with, then we get these DTV commericals non-stop, take half the cost of them buy every person in the US a new TV. Talk about Chinese water torture. I used to enjoy watching News, but half is the same repetitive junk.
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Git sum popcorn and grab me a beer! |
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