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Old 01-10-2009, 06:17 PM
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Not just the Jewish lobby. I would argue that they would not be as apparently influential if the majority of evangelical Christians weren't firm in their belief that God gave the land to Israel and that Islam is satanic and that Biblical prediction or prophesy or whatever requires a Jewish return of some sort.

The evangelical vote is extremely powerful within the Repo party just as the Jewish vote is extremely powerful within the Democrat Party. Those two forces are at work to aid Israel in every way possible.

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Old 01-10-2009, 06:43 PM
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Sure they do.

Ignore the evidence.

Stick with your story.
What kind of evidence am I ignoring? There is so much evidence, you can literally feed the pigs with it.

The more evidence spilled all over any kind of media channel, the better.
It either aides confusion or the choice of selection.

Who's truth is truer than the other's truth?

... and why would I want to stick with somebodyelse's story. For God's sake?
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Old 01-10-2009, 06:48 PM
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Not just the Jewish lobby. I would argue that they would not be as apparently influential if the majority of evangelical Christians weren't firm in their belief that God gave the land to Israel and that Islam is satanic and that Biblical prediction or prophesy or whatever requires a Jewish return of some sort.

The evangelical vote is extremely powerful within the Repo party just as the Jewish vote is extremely powerful within the Democrat Party. Those two forces are at work to aid Israel in every way possible.

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Somebody's got to use their brains here. Belief and God. 2 of the most undefined elements of human existence and this is supposed to serve as the basis of determination, whether one's killing of life's is more justified than others.
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until the palestinians get justice, there will never be peace in the middle east.

the palestinians, however, have a snowball's chance in hell. therefore... yes, ..
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Old 01-10-2009, 09:15 PM
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What kind of evidence am I ignoring? There is so much evidence, you can literally feed the pigs with it.

The more evidence spilled all over any kind of media channel, the better.
It either aides confusion or the choice of selection.

Who's truth is truer than the other's truth?

... and why would I want to stick with somebodyelse's story. For God's sake?
The press is all over the thing with very little positively disposed toward Israel but the Israelis continue as though completely unperturbed by the mountains of bad press.
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Old 01-10-2009, 09:33 PM
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The press is all over the thing with very little positively disposed toward Israel but the Israelis continue as though completely unperturbed by the mountains of bad press.
That will happen we you believe you are fighting for your survival.
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until the palestinians get justice, there will never be peace in the middle east.
Justice is being served as we speak.
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Justice is being served as we speak.
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Justice is being served as we speak.

can you explain please !
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can you explain please !
I believe the statement is self explanatory.
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can you explain please !
What he means is, IOW, bring on the genocide.
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:55 AM
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We hear all sorts of "reasons" why it's okay, but Jews and Jewish supporters endorsing genocide is about as wrong as life gets.
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Old 01-11-2009, 12:03 PM
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No, that's not what I meant. If the Pal's want peace, then stop the rocket attacks and negotiate a treaty. If they can't do that, then Israel has the right to defend themselves using any and all means at their disposal.

Statehood has been within the Pal's grasp several times, only to be bastardized by their inability to reconcile with Israel's right to exist. If they truly want peace and stability, they should stop acting like terrorist and resolve their differences through diplomacy. If not, then suffer the consequences.
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No, that's not what I meant. If the Pal's want peace, then stop the rocket attacks and negotiate a treaty. If they can't do that, then Israel has the right to defend themselves using any and all means at their disposal.

Statehood has been within the Pal's grasp several times, only to be bastardized by their inability to reconcile with Israel's right to exist. If they truly want peace and stability, they should stop acting like terrorist and resolve their differences through diplomacy. If not, then suffer the consequences.
Nice reason why less than 20 dead jews=800 dead muslims. Consequences? Try living in a open air prison and see how long you would last thinking like you do now. Besides when "their disposal" means my $ I ought to be able to not send my money. If you like sending your money- go ahead. But I don't agree that my money should be used for genocide.
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:36 PM
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Justice is being served as we speak.
Considering this kind of justice, Israel will never have Peace.

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