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Old 01-22-2009, 09:32 PM
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Classic dehumanizing of your enemy.

Its been done forever.

Makes it easier for the soldier to go out and kill.

Hitlar was a master at dehumanization.

You can see subtler aspects of this in sports fans, and political types.
I still think the Hitlar is overrated, back then and today.
Present governments to a much better and more sophisticated job. After all, it's a 60 year stretch of human evolution and development.
But Germans sure found out. After it was all done and over.

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I'll be damned. I'm an unthinking Nazi.

See, I think in terms of 2 classes when my country is at war. Those who are with us and I hope to protect from damage, ... and everybody else.
So you make no distinction between those who have declared war on us and those who wish to remain neutral and not get involved? That's an unfortunately narrow world view.
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Old 01-22-2009, 10:27 PM
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So you make no distinction between those who have declared war on us and those who wish to remain neutral and not get involved? That's an unfortunately narrow world view.
Distinction? Don't kill people who leave us alone. People who get onboard we make allowances for in their interest. The rest are enemies or enemy sympathizers. Kill'em if they're a threat. Make no allowances for those who are not a threat.

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Old 01-22-2009, 10:27 PM
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So you make no distinction between those who have declared war on us and those who wish to remain neutral and not get involved? That's an unfortunately narrow world view.
Whats the problem???......Either they are for us...or against us..It's a black & White issue... There is NO room for a grey area on this subject......Plain and SIMPLE!!.......
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Old 01-22-2009, 10:38 PM
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I still think the Hitlar is overrated, back then and today.
Present governments to a much better and more sophisticated job. After all, it's a 60 year stretch of human evolution and development.
But Germans sure found out. After it was all done and over.
Over rated? I guess you're right; he didn't get 'em all did he?
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Old 01-22-2009, 10:41 PM
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It's been 8 years of subversive activity on the subject of terrorism.

We had 911, no doubt about it, and ever since this nation has been pounded with nothing else, but "Terrorism Propaganda".

One of the good things though is, it all changed on a single day. I always was wondering how this nation was able to actually survive under such propaganda, emotionally, mentally, all things considered.

[FONT=Verdana]They really extorted the case to the fullest.[/FONT]

It has come to the point, where the term “terrorism” is almost meaningless. Oversaturated.

Yep, that little incident really got overblown didn't it?
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Over rated? I guess you're right; he didn't get 'em all did he?
Great response!
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Yep, that little incident really got overblown didn't it?
Well, it seems some couldn't get enough of it.
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Distinction? Don't kill people who leave us alone. People who get onboard we make allowances for in their interest. The rest are enemies or enemy sympathizers. Kill'em if they're a threat. Make no allowances for those who are not a threat.

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Old 01-22-2009, 11:48 PM
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Whats the problem???......Either they are for us...or against us..It's a black & White issue... There is NO room for a grey area on this subject......Plain and SIMPLE!!.......
I don't know who is setting the standards. Doesn't exactly sound like the 'Great American Spirit', but it sure rings familiar to something we usually regard with a much distaste.
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Old 01-23-2009, 07:37 AM
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Distinction? Don't kill people who leave us alone. People who get onboard we make allowances for in their interest. The rest are enemies or enemy sympathizers. Kill'em if they're a threat. Make no allowances for those who are not a threat.

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Do you think there is a difference between enemy combatants and enemy sympathizers? Is there a difference between those who talk tough and those who pick up weapons? Is there a difference between those who don't like us and those who hate us? Is there a difference between those who hate everything about us and those who hate a few things we do?

Do you think we should know our enemies? Or is everyone who doesn't cheer us on, sport Power of Pride bumper stickers, and wear american flag shirts all to be seen and dealt with the same way?
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Old 01-23-2009, 01:50 PM
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Do you think there is a difference between enemy combatants and enemy sympathizers? Is there a difference between those who talk tough and those who pick up weapons? Is there a difference between those who don't like us and those who hate us? Is there a difference between those who hate everything about us and those who hate a few things we do?

Do you think we should know our enemies? Or is everyone who doesn't cheer us on, sport Power of Pride bumper stickers, and wear american flag shirts all to be seen and dealt with the same way?
See my comment for the distinction.

Knowing one's enemy is always a good thing: It allows one to more effectively deal death and destruction on the head of one's enemy, until they either surrender or die.

If they surrender then treat them with courtesy and magnanimity.

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Distinction? Don't kill people who leave us alone. People who get onboard we make allowances for in their interest. The rest are enemies or enemy sympathizers. Kill'em if they're a threat. Make no allowances for those who are not a threat.

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By your proposal, we had no business killing any Iraqis, since they were "leaving us alone". Ditto for Vietnam and countless other misadventures the US got involved in.
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See my comment for the distinction.

Knowing one's enemy is always a good thing: It allows one to more effectively deal death and destruction on the head of one's enemy, until they either surrender or die.

If they surrender then treat them with courtesy and magnanimity.

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The people who planned the Sept. 11th attacks left us alone right up until they executed the plan.


If knowing one's enemy is always a good thing, wouldn't defining them be good too? Surely there are more colors in the world than black and white.

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