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Old 02-08-2009, 08:35 PM
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Its a truck not a Ferrari, drum brakes work fine in the rear.
i agree, not only that but i would take rear drums over disks. somtimes you need them to slip a little bit

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Old 02-08-2009, 09:26 PM
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I don't mind drums in the rear because they last forever, I don't think my dad ever changed the shoes on his 1994 F150 when he sold it at 105k miles a couple years ago.

If the vehical lasts 200k miles it probably will only need one shoe change...unless you trailer a lot or something like that.
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Old 02-08-2009, 09:45 PM
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Mercedes was the first to implement disc brakes on all 4 corners on their S-Class...
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Old 02-08-2009, 09:59 PM
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Old 02-08-2009, 10:01 PM
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Mercedes was the first to implement disc brakes on all 4 corners on their S-Class...
No.. Austin Healey.
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Old 02-08-2009, 10:02 PM
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No.. Austin Healey.
they don't count since british cars never really had to use their brakes since they never ran.

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Old 02-08-2009, 10:36 PM
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I thought Jag beat everyone with disc brakes in the early 50's? Mercedes was to broke to use them, and Enzo Ferrari hated new crap...but he hated getting out braked by Jag's even more.
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:23 PM
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I thought Jag beat everyone with disc brakes in the early 50's? Mercedes was to broke to use them, and Enzo Ferrari hated new crap...but he hated getting out braked by Jag's even more.
In racing yes. But I think in road cars they were first. (Or possibly Volvo)
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:37 AM
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they don't count since british cars never really had to use their brakes since they never ran.

That is a very good point.

Ok, so drum brakes are ok. But in looking over the thing overall....wow...what a POS. Already rusting....couldn't believe it. Flimsy feel to stuff....weird design for the steering and stuff....just doesn't seem well engineered.

Whats worse is the Tahoe hybrid.....HOW do you change the spark plugs on the passenger side of the motor?! They are completely 100% blocked by the huge "Hybrid Unit" they stuffed in there. So first you have to disassemble and remove the 300Volt control unit.....nice. All that weight and useless technology to gain a whole 5-7 mpg in the city. Rating of 20/20.....thats horrible.

After sitting in and looking at the sprinter....who would want a pickup? Its like having a small warehouse on wheels!! And still has MB stuff/motor/diesel.
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Old 02-09-2009, 01:11 AM
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After sitting in and looking at the sprinter....who would want a pickup? Its like having a small warehouse on wheels!! And still has MB stuff/motor/diesel.

And with just a few modifications, proper badging as well.
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:59 AM
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All that weight and useless technology to gain a whole 5-7 mpg in the city. Rating of 20/20.....thats horrible.
Not for nothing.......but 20/20 is fantastic for a Tahoe.......far better than the current 12 or so.
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:29 AM
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. All that weight and useless technology to gain a whole 5-7 mpg in the city. Rating of 20/20.....thats horrible.
That's better city mileage than my Honda Odyssey (17/21) that for the most part escapes the scorn thrown at SUV's and can't haul nearly as much. And far better on both than my Wrangler.

To me it makes more sense than on a compact car.
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:41 AM
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And far better on both than my Wrangler.
I always wondered how Jeep manages to reduce the fuel economy down to the level of the 6,000 lb. $hitboxes.............I think they have a return fuel line that extends back to Saudi Arabia and 30% of all fuel gets sent back......
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:02 AM
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