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aklim · #31 06-05-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by R Leo

Let me rephrase. Do you want to eat that stuff?

I'm sure I already am eating it in one form or another. Do I care? Not until I see that it has been proven to have ill effects. So until you can show me something scientific that says it is bad, price and taste are what will decide what I buy.

OMEGAMAN · #32 06-05-2009, 09:03 PM

Corn fed titties!

cmbdiesel · #33 06-05-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

I'm sure I already am eating it in one form or another. Do I care? Not until I see that it has been proven to have ill effects. So until you can show me something scientific that says it is bad, price and taste are what will decide what I buy.

You are a marketing dept's wet dream.....

Remember the study's showing that smoking had no ill effects? Or maybe the 'Eat Margarine because butter is bad for you' campaign? Possibly the 'Don't eat eggs because of cholesterol' ? Whatever they can do to sell their product, bury evidence of ill effects, cast aspersions on local products, it's all fair game.

cmbdiesel · #34 06-05-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OMEGAMAN

Corn fed titties!

Those are good.

Back in my hippie days I had a lot of grass fed too.

aklim · #35 06-06-2009, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel

You are a marketing dept's wet dream.....

Remember the study's showing that smoking had no ill effects? Or maybe the 'Eat Margarine because butter is bad for you' campaign? Possibly the 'Don't eat eggs because of cholesterol' ? Whatever they can do to sell their product, bury evidence of ill effects, cast aspersions on local products, it's all fair game.

So what is it you suggest? There are so many suggestions out there for things to avoid. Power lines, cell phones, etc, etc. All have been thought to might do this or that. Me jerking myself off has been speculated to make me go blind, mad or crippled. At that rate, I'd be all 3 by now.

Edit: I'm not saying that I will buy whatever report you shove in my face. Like someone said, follow the money. Obviously, I will take a report published by the organic industry with a pinch of salt as I would by say the beef council. OTOH, without any reports, what do you base a decision on? Now if a report says that eating fish can cause me to go blind I have to see what their report is based on and what it really means. If the amount of fish I have to eat is going to be way more than I will ever eat, I wouldn't care. IOW, if they said that by eating 5# of fish a day for 30 years, I will go blind, I don't care. OTOH, if they say that eating 1 fish a year will make me go blind, I might be more tempted to look at how they arrived at their conclusion and see what it means for me.

R Leo · #36 06-06-2009, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

I'm sure I already am eating it in one form or another. Do I care? Not until I see that it has been proven to have ill effects. So until you can show me something scientific that says it is bad, price and taste are what will decide what I buy.

OK, you've stated your point. Now, go to some other thread and bother those people.

aklim · #37 06-06-2009, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by R Leo

OK, you've stated your point. Now, go to some other thread and bother those people.

OK. I'll try to be more supportive of your industry in future. Happy?

Squabble · #38 06-06-2009, 08:40 AM

now now now......

aklim has a point, it IS difficult to sort through the long list of dos and don'ts about everything, coming out of the mouths of "industry experts," medical professionals, the media, the government, your neighbors, your dog, etc. etc.

but it's fairly easy to see that this argument has a valid point without industry trials and tests. put chemicals into stuff, put stuff into mouth, you get some chemicals in your body. how far you want to take this is up to you. just as smokers argue that they know someone who smoked for 75 years and died healthy at 98, people will argue that they know people who ate bacon and red meat all their lives and died healthy and trim at 98. to me, moderation is key. eat natural and organic when you can, eat conventional when you have to. wash your veggies before eating, and keep the meat intake to a minimum. not too extreme in any direction, and not a big enough of an inconvenience for americans who want what they want when they want it, no questions asked.

personally, i'm fairly certain that the chemicals that were introduced into our lives after WWII in the forms of household and industrial cleaners/chemicals, pesticides, fertilizers, ingredients (corn syrup), and production materials have a lot to do with increased cancer rates in our country. i'm fairly certain that the consumer safety trend that seems to be happening, (working in natural foods, i see this on a daily basis. the middle of the road mr. and mrs. smith's want natural foods, organic milk, and natural cleaning products. they want bulk commodities and recycled toilet paper. following the money in my line of work means a steady uptick, even with the economy in the tubes. last year we saw a $4 million increase in sales in our little city, even as foods prices & gas prices shot up), will greatly reduce these rates in the near future and maybe that will prove something to someone. but that's just a hunch.

EDIT: eating fish just gives you mercury poisoning and cancer, don't worry about your eyesight

aklim · #39 06-06-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Squabble

but it's fairly easy to see that this argument has a valid point without industry trials and tests. put chemicals into stuff, put stuff into mouth, you get some chemicals in your body.

how far you want to take this is up to you. just as smokers argue that they know someone who smoked for 75 years and died healthy at 98, people will argue that they know people who ate bacon and red meat all their lives and died healthy and trim at 98. to me, moderation is key. eat natural and organic when you can, eat conventional when you have to. wash your veggies before eating, and keep the meat intake to a minimum. not too extreme in any direction, and not a big enough of an inconvenience for americans who want what they want when they want it, no questions asked.

personally, i'm fairly certain that the chemicals that were introduced into our lives after WWII in the forms of household and industrial cleaners/chemicals, pesticides, fertilizers, ingredients (corn syrup), and production materials have a lot to do with increased cancer rates in our country.

EDIT: eating fish just gives you mercury poisoning and cancer, don't worry about your eyesight

I'm not disagreeing that more testing is unnecessary, FWIW.

Smoking doesn't give you cancer. It increases the chance of you getting cancer. Just like eating bacon and red meat increases your chances of health issues. As such, someone will always be able to find someone it didn' affect. That is why I won't place much stock in such items. I prefer to look at the odds of it happening. I might not be as lucky as that 1 in a billion person to beat the odds.

IIRC, there was something that said that if we lived long enough, we'd eventually get cancer. I think part of the problem is that we ARE living long enough. Take Vet medicine for instance. The geriatric issues of swine or poultry is very scant. Why? Because those animals rarely get to live their natural life. OTOH, when you talk of dogs or cats, the literature available is way more. I think since WWII we have been living longer and longer. As such, more and more problems will crop up. Humans don't get better with age.

Oh, so it must be the other thing I do.