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Old 06-21-2009, 12:37 PM
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Old 06-21-2009, 01:49 PM
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Yes it is. Just do a search for "hid conversion kit"; you will find HID conversion kits for all sorts of popular halogen bulbs that are meant to install in the existing headlamp assembly Some claim to be "DOT approved". They are nothing more than a HID bulb that is made to fit in place of a halogen bulb in the existing headlight assembly, along with the electronic modules needed to make them work. The blue tinted halogen bulbs should have no problems with improper beam pattern, provided the bulbs are the proper halogen bulb with nothing more than a blue tint.

The problem with HID conversions is that there is a difference in the shape of the light source between the HID bulb and a conventional bulb, and the headlight reflector needs to be designed for the bulb it is to be used with. A halogen bulb has a filament, which is essentially a short line of light, whereas the HID bulb has an electric arc, which produces an arc-shaped light source. The HID light source is not in the proper location for correct beam focusing when the optics were designed for the straight line of the conventional bulb.
Yes, conversion kits are available. But it takes a kit to do it. Not the simple exchange of a bulb as you posted.
"Factory installed HID headlights are not the problem, it's the people who simply install HID bulbs in place of standard halogen bulbs."
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Old 06-21-2009, 02:23 PM
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Yes, conversion kits are available. But it takes a kit to do it. Not the simple exchange of a bulb as you posted.
"Factory installed HID headlights are not the problem, it's the people who simply install HID bulbs in place of standard halogen bulbs."
The kit of which you speak does not include the new optics that would be required to do it right. Yet, kits which are a simple bulb exchange (plus supporting electronics) are indeed sold to buyers who do not know or care. These are the problem.

M-B says in the FSM for my car that you cannot retrofit HID lamp assemblies to the car. This is because the levelers will have nothing to talk to, and the washers will not be present. I don't know whether levelers and washers are required in the US.
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Old 06-21-2009, 02:47 PM
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The kit of which you speak does not include the new optics that would be required to do it right. Yet, kits which are a simple bulb exchange (plus supporting electronics) are indeed sold to buyers who do not know or care. These are the problem.
I agree.
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Old 06-21-2009, 05:56 PM
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Factory installed HID headlights are not the problem, it's the people who simply install HID bulbs in place of standard halogen bulbs. The headlight assembly optics are not designed for an HID bulb, so light gets thrown everywhere. I read a study somewhere that took cars with properly aimed conventional headlights, measured the beam characteristics, then installed aftermarket HID bulbs and remeasured. The conclusion was that putting HID bulbs into headlights not designed for them resulted in too much light going into the wrong places (like other drivers' eyes). Look closer next time you see an F-150/Suburban/Honda Civic with blue headlights; it looks like the light beam is off focus.
I disagree , the ones that are usually blinding me are stock BMW's, and a few other new makes.
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