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Old 08-02-2009, 04:26 AM
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Cash for Clunkers HORRIBLE engine killing

Hmmm,

I just saw this video on Jalopnik.com and I am horrified. Here's a late model S80 Volvo getting its engine killed.

http://jalopnik.com/5327580/video-how-to-disable-a-cash-for-clunkers-car?skyline=true&s=i

I wonder how many Mercedes are meeting their doom this way. Many w126 sedans and coupes as well as w140's qualify under the cash for clunkers program. Our tax money is being used to kill cars and subsidize cheap plastic cars for consumers that can't afford gas and for American car manufacturers to keep putting out way more cars than we need! How can we stop this?

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Old 08-02-2009, 04:27 AM
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Exclamation Cash for Clunkers HORRIBLE engine killing

Hmmm,

I just saw this video on Jalopnik.com and I am horrified. Here's a late model S80 Volvo getting its engine killed.

http://jalopnik.com/5327580/video-how-to-disable-a-cash-for-clunkers-car?skyline=true&s=i

I wonder how many Mercedes are meeting their doom this way. Many w126 sedans and coupes as well as w140's qualify under the cash for clunkers program. Our tax money is being used to kill cars and subsidize cheap plastic cars for consumers that can't afford gas and for American car manufacturers to keep putting out way more cars than we need! This is really wasteful!!!
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:09 AM
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Vandalism.

Nothing short of it.

These measures only supply a short term solution to a problem.

Other problems will crop up later. Like all these short term stimulus ideas.

An initial short term surge of new car sales to be followed up by a slump.
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...and we will wind up like Europe with $8 gas and the roads will be full of Euro Like-Econo-Boxes for transportation.
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Old 08-02-2009, 10:03 AM
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Awwww, the gubmint's jes tryin' ta hep us out!
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Old 08-02-2009, 10:41 AM
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You watch. This program is so successful that the GOV will extend it for two years to get 1/2 million "Clunker" off the road, then come after the rest of them.
I want to see the ones getting the new cars now, in six months when they can't make the payments...O will bail them out too.......with our money.
It's like cutting a foot off a blanket and sewing it on the other end because the blanket is too short.
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Not in my Wildest Dreams could I have invisioned the Gov telling me that not only would they prefer that I get my Damn Pig of a Mecedes Benz OFF their road.................... but that they will even pay me to do as they want and see fit....and you better comply now cuz soon you will comply w/o being paid..or you will be getting a Visit from the "Crusher Czar ".....

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Old 08-02-2009, 11:18 AM
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Not in my Wildest Dreams could I have invisioned the Gov telling me that not only would they prefer that I get my Damn Pig of a Mecedes Benz OFF their road.................... but that they will even pay me to do as they want and see fit....and you better comply now cuz soon you will comply w/o being paid..or you will be getting a Visit from the "Crusher Czar ".....

" Ve vill have to take you and Da Benz down to headquarters..ya.. "
It actually makes me want to do the full opposite. Most of my cars are quite fuel efficient. I get at least 25mpg in my entire fleet and are maintained well and always pass emissions. If stuff like this continues a V12 powered W140 may be in my future out of spite. Or perhaps a Vintage 911 with straight pipes.
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Old 08-02-2009, 11:23 AM
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Vandalism.

Nothing short of it.

These measures only supply a short term solution to a problem.

Other problems will crop up later. Like all these short term stimulus ideas.

An initial short term surge of new car sales to be followed up by a slump.
I wonder how this will change the prices on cars like the W126 and W140 that quality for the list. I wonder how many cars will become "extinct" because of this program.

I personally would not care if ALL of the new American car makers fell off the face of the earth. They don't sell anything that I would even remotely consider buying. Our cars are pathetic jokes. Every time they test an American car on Top Gear they have a really good laugh about the handling and then do the "cheap plastic dash" test by hitting the top of it and listening to it resonate like a drum.
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Old 08-02-2009, 11:24 AM
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I totally agree

The right way to deal with our dependence on oil is raise the price of gasoline by taxing it. To look on the bright side - Hopefully this takes a lot more crappy SUVs off the road than Mercedes V12s (the horror!).
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Old 08-02-2009, 11:28 AM
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...and we will wind up like Europe with $8 gas and the roads will be full of Euro Like-Econo-Boxes for transportation.
I personally would prefer $8.00 gas. When the prices went up to above $3.00 it kept people off the roads. $8.00 a gallon gas would make people think before getting behind the wheel and about their vehicle choices. I still would drive my W140 and 944 daily to the office.
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Old 08-02-2009, 11:36 AM
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The right way to deal with our dependence on oil is raise the price of gasoline by taxing it. To look on the bright side - Hopefully this takes a lot more crappy SUVs off the road than Mercedes V12s (the horror!).
I don't really agree with the tax thing. I would love to see $8.00 gas but not by giving the money to the government for them to waste.

This cash for clunkers makes me want to go out and buy some beautifully restored American muscle car and turning it in under the cash for clunkers program and insist on watching / video taping the engine destruction and stick it on youtube. Perhaps if some more people saw cars they loved being destroyed they would be as outraged as we are and stop this wasteful insanity.
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High gas prices kill our consumer based economy..so, may be less cars driven with high gas $$, but lets face it..a car is a like a washing machine today..you just have to have one to exist. So, what gets spent on gas does not get spent on other stuff..and that's what puts our economy in the tank.
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Old 08-02-2009, 11:45 AM
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High gas prices kill our consumer based economy..so, may be less cars driven with high gas $$, but lets face it..a car is a like a washing machine today..you just have to have one to exist. So, what gets spent on gas does not get spent on other stuff..and that's what puts our economy in the tank.
Instead of looking at the symptom look at the cause. Look at the wall street banks and other companies that are stopping the flow of cash before it hits the consumer.

Shopping for Muscle cars now. Located a nice 1965 Mustang locally. This could be a fun project. It probably would not qualify for Cash for Clunkers but I certainly could put the engine destroying chemicals in the engine myself.
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Old 08-02-2009, 11:58 AM
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Looking at causes and blames is endless....
Looking for practical solutions is where they are failing...
" Unintended Consequences " of legislation should be where we spend more time, but that would take Real Persons, not Politicians...


But as Frank Perdues famous line pegs it..

"What the hell does the Gov know about chickens, anyway??? !! "

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