Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > General Discussions > Off-Topic Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #361  
Old 09-04-2009, 04:09 PM
MS Fowler's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Littlestown PA ( 6 miles south of Gettysburg)
Posts: 2,277
[QUOTE=kerry;2286469][QUOTE=MS Fowler;2285916]
Quote:
Originally Posted by kerry View Post

I really don't understand why people on the conservative end of the religious spectrum get their shorts in a knot over the Mosaic authorship of the Pentateuch or other obscure arguments about who wrote what in the Bible. If it's a divinely inspired document it could have been written by Fred Flintstone without making any difference at all from a logical point of view. The issue is strictly traditional attribution of authorship which seems to prove that conservative religious believers are not really committed to the textual authority of the Scripture, but to conservative cultural and religious beliefs in general.

Look at Matt. He thinks the OT was written in Greek yet such a factual error has no effect on his ability to turn the text into a fetish.
Mosaic authorship is more important than simple tradition. In the Gospels, Jesus attributes the books to Moses. That ends the discussion, or we have the problem of Jesus speaking error.

__________________
1982 300SD " Wotan" ..On the road as of Jan 8, 2007 with Historic Tags
Reply With Quote
  #362  
Old 09-04-2009, 04:17 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 18,350
Quote:
Originally Posted by MS Fowler View Post

Mosaic authorship is more important than simple tradition. In the Gospels, Jesus attributes the books to Moses. That ends the discussion, or we have the problem of Jesus speaking error.
Or could it be that the Divine Incarnate thought that a long dissertation on JDEP was a little onerous for his audience, just like he didn't go into a explanation of the germ theory of disease.
__________________
1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

Last edited by kerry; 09-04-2009 at 04:35 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #363  
Old 09-04-2009, 08:50 PM
MS Fowler's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Littlestown PA ( 6 miles south of Gettysburg)
Posts: 2,277
Quote:
Originally Posted by kerry View Post
Or could it be that the Divine Incarnate thought that a long dissertation on JDEP was a little onerous for his audience, just like he didn't go into a explanation of the germ theory of disease.
Why would he introduce a fable like that?
__________________
1982 300SD " Wotan" ..On the road as of Jan 8, 2007 with Historic Tags
Reply With Quote
  #364  
Old 09-04-2009, 11:07 PM
Ta ra ra boom de ay
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 1,915
Quote:
Originally Posted by MS Fowler View Post
Why would he introduce a fable like that?
If there is a spiritual value in the bible, it's in that question.
__________________
-Marty

1986 300E 220,000 miles+ transmission impossible
(Now waiting under a bridge in order to become one)

Reading your M103 duty cycle:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showpost.php?p=831799&postcount=13
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showpost.php?p=831807&postcount=14
Reply With Quote
  #365  
Old 09-09-2009, 03:47 PM
Mistress's Avatar
No crying in baseball
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Inside a vortex
Posts: 626
bump
__________________
"It's normal for these things to empty your wallet and break your heart in the process."
2012 SLK 350
1987 420 SEL
Reply With Quote
  #366  
Old 10-13-2009, 08:07 PM
MTI's Avatar
MTI MTI is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
Posts: 10,626
There are No Atheists in Fox-Holes!

Reject science and embrace Jesus because science doesn't have all the answers, pretzel logic at its finest.
Reply With Quote
  #367  
Old 10-13-2009, 10:43 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: S. Texas
Posts: 1,237
Some atheists common sense.

http://www.chrisbeach.co.uk/viewQuotes.php
Reply With Quote
  #368  
Old 10-13-2009, 11:37 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 18,350
O'Reilly doesn't do a very good job of faking religion. He needs to study Robertson, Falwell, or Swaggart to appear more authentic.
__________________
1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13
Reply With Quote
  #369  
Old 10-14-2009, 12:40 PM
aklim's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Location: Greenfield WI, USA
Posts: 8,514
Quote:
Originally Posted by MTI View Post
There are No Atheists in Fox-Holes!

Reject science and embrace Jesus because science doesn't have all the answers, pretzel logic at its finest.
Religion provides answers to the questions. Science may or may not have answers to your questions AT THIS TIME. So, the question is whether you are willing to embrace an answer just because it is an answer or you are willing to hold out and may never find the answer. If you so desperately need an answer, right or wrong, religion is the ticket.
__________________
01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow
Reply With Quote
  #370  
Old 10-14-2009, 12:45 PM
Mistress's Avatar
No crying in baseball
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Inside a vortex
Posts: 626
Religion also explains death....
__________________
"It's normal for these things to empty your wallet and break your heart in the process."
2012 SLK 350
1987 420 SEL
Reply With Quote
  #371  
Old 10-14-2009, 04:16 PM
MS Fowler's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Littlestown PA ( 6 miles south of Gettysburg)
Posts: 2,277
Quote:
Originally Posted by aklim View Post
Religion provides answers to the questions. Science may or may not have answers to your questions AT THIS TIME. So, the question is whether you are willing to embrace an answer just because it is an answer or you are willing to hold out and may never find the answer. If you so desperately need an answer, right or wrong, religion is the ticket.
What you state is, logically possible.

It is also logically possible that there is a true religion that gives true answers, and is not an invention .
__________________
1982 300SD " Wotan" ..On the road as of Jan 8, 2007 with Historic Tags
Reply With Quote
  #372  
Old 10-14-2009, 04:48 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 18,350
Quote:
Originally Posted by MS Fowler View Post
What you state is, logically possible.

It is also logically possible that there is a true religion that gives true answers, and is not an invention .
Now that you mention it, I don't think it is possible. Truth in science is a matter of investigation and inquiry. Truth in a revealed religion is something entirely different as it is accepted on authority. So religions with revealed 'truth' aren't really an equal alternative to science, giving 'true' answers in the same way that science gives true answers.
__________________
1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13
Reply With Quote
  #373  
Old 10-14-2009, 04:57 PM
aklim's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Location: Greenfield WI, USA
Posts: 8,514
Quote:
Originally Posted by MS Fowler View Post
It is also logically possible that there is a true religion that gives true answers, and is not an invention .
True but there is no real way to find out so you can prove it does or does not. So what are you left with? Besides "Believe or Don't Believe"?
__________________
01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow
Reply With Quote
  #374  
Old 10-14-2009, 05:08 PM
aklim's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Location: Greenfield WI, USA
Posts: 8,514
Quote:
Originally Posted by kerry View Post
Now that you mention it, I don't think it is possible. Truth in science is a matter of investigation and inquiry. Truth in a revealed religion is something entirely different as it is accepted on authority. So religions with revealed 'truth' aren't really an equal alternative to science, giving 'true' answers in the same way that science gives true answers.
But it could possibly, maybe not probably but certainly possibly, hit on a right answer. Isn't it like they say that a blind squirrel will find a nut now and then?

__________________
01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2026 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page