The world health organization ranks healtcare in the united states 37th in the world.
One lower than Costa Rica.

I can see there are things that Obama supports that I do not,
in fact I do not support the war in Afganastan.
And specific issues that I do support like healthcare reform.

If you truly only see "meet the new boss, same as the old"
Then you are the one that has been blinded.[/QUOTE]

1) Sounds very much like what has happened--the government now has a vested interest in the means of production ( auto companies), and capital, ( banks)

2) Staistics on gun ownership---These stats which do tend to show that posessing agun is likely to harm the owner are compied for that very reason. They fail to take into account how many crimes. assaults etc are stopped by the posession of a weapon. These stats only include the gun where it was fired, but ignore all those cases where the presentation of the gun stops the incident.

3) Yes there are some problems with US healthcare--but those WHO stats, again are developed simply to make the point you make. They include , and use as their ranking data, some information that is irrelevant--miliatary service, gun ownership etc.

Statistics can be used to "prove" anything you want to prove by selective choice of the data. Would you switch places with someone in some of those countries that are ranked higher than the US?

The differences between democrats and republicans is less than the differences between the ruling class, and the working class. The "boss" is always a member of the ruling class. Think about it.

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Tom -- the "czar" issue has been making the news for some time now. The concern, as I understand it, is one of oversight. Since these "czars" are appointed, congressional oversight is avoided. Sen. Byrd objected directly (via letter, as I recall) to Pres. Obama early on, and many argue that he has a point, especially given Pres. O's campaign promise of transparency.

Edit: here's a link:

http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2009/02/25/25greenwire-byrd-questions-obamas-use-of-policy-czars-9865.html

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RichC- Are you aware that in Switzerland not only is gun ownersip legal, but every able bodied male is required to have and know how to use a machine gun? Switzerland also does not have the illegal immigration problem we do. An armed society is a polite society.
I am well trained in firearm safety(Military' etc.) and take it very seriously. I love how your whole world revolves around the concept of "but when Bush did it it was OK!" NO it wasn't, but Bush isn't president anymore.

Compared to a guy without a gun? Well... yeah, how do you shoot yourself or someone else if you don't have a gun. DUH

The armchair commandoness of this one is strong.

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lol

Switzerland has the Matterhorn.

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What in the world are you talking about.

I am not anti gun.

I am anti stupid.

You have no idea what my world revolves around.

If you think I am so simple minded that my world revolves around partisan politics
you need to ( aaawhhh forget it, go back to polishing you gun ...

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What !!!

Every able bodied male is required to have a machine gun in Switzerland ???



Where in the world did you come up with that ???

Geesh, I hope you paid more attention in your firearm training classes then you did in your Swiss law class..

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1566715.stm

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Thanks for the help with the link cscmc1. although I am not STUPID as RichC implies, I am definitely a computer amateur. Read em and weep Rich. By the way, I didn't learn about Swiss gun laws from this article- I trained with the Swiss troops when I was in the Army. A little different than spending your time googling to find articles that suit your opinions in the safety of your cubicle.

when the Swiss go reserve troops, they get a bolt action. but they do have real assualt rifles in the home when they are in the active service portion. the point is it is a heavily armed society and has virtually no crime....

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but NOT their own facts.
It is just awful when stuff runs counter to preconceived notions of how it must be.

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False logic unsupported by the facts. The truth is, gun ownership and crime don't necessarily correlate. Japan has even less crime than Switzerland, yet it's virtually gun-free. OTOH, Switzerland has more guns than say Germany, but Germany has more crime. OTOH, Canada has fewer guns than the US, but also has less crime. Iraq has very high gun ownership, yet it's hardly polite & stable there. I think what correlates more with violent crime is the culture, education, rule of law, and economic well-being of the people. There's too much scum in the US for there to be unregulated guns. We do have some gun regulation, but things like background checks and licensing should be more strictly enforced and penalties for violations should be increased. It's still way too easy for a violent idiot to get a gun in this country.

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Would you mind if I rephrased it for you:

It's still way too easy for the average moron to get a handgun in this country.

That too.

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umm.... it still does.