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MS Fowler · #1 08-24-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tankdriver

Last year, 186 people were killed in Washington DC.

And over 300 in Baltimore.

For criminals, a gun is one of the "tools of the trade". As long as there are criminals, criminals will have guns.

How many crimes are committed by honest, gun-owning citizens?

tankdriver · #2 08-24-2009, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

And over 300 in Baltimore.

For criminals, a gun is one of the "tools of the trade". As long as there are criminals, criminals will have knives.

Isn't that your point?
What I'm saying is that the statistic for London, being so much lower than Washington's, supports t walgamuth's point about England's crime rate.

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How many crimes are committed by honest, gun-owning citizens?

As many as honest non-gun owners I suspect. A better question would be, how many guns legally purchased at one point in their history have been used in violent crime?

t walgamuth · #3 08-24-2009, 10:16 PM

As for the second question I imagine a small percentage where it is difficult to get one if you are not a good citizen.

MS Fowler · #4 08-25-2009, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

As for the second question I imagine a small percentage where it is difficult to get one if you are not a good citizen.

If you are saying that it is difficult for criminals to get guns, I must disagree. It might be difficult for them to legally obtain guns, but since they require a gun for their criminal enterprise, they will obtain them.
If you are replying to another statement--then disregard this.

t walgamuth · #5 08-25-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

If you are saying that it is difficult for criminals to get guns, I must disagree. It might be difficult for them to legally obtain guns, but since they require a gun for their criminal enterprise, they will obtain them.
If you are replying to another statement--then disregard this.

I probably did not give enough information. I believe that a small percentage of the legally obtained guns eventually become used in violent crimes. Thinking about it, I believe that most folks who obtain guns legally probably hold on to them or sell them to someone else equally law abiding.

This is a hunch not based on any known facts (so don't ask, please).