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Old 10-30-2009, 11:28 AM
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HIPPA non-privacy

concerning so-called "HIPPA" privacy laws, they appear to not be worth the paper they are written on.

READ THIS:

http://hipaahealthlaw.foxrothschild.com/2007/10/articles/privacy/employees-suspended-for-snooping-about-george-clooney/

personally, I think that ALL of the employees should have been FIRED immediately. apparently, a slap on the wrist and back to work they go (to snoop on you and your family, of course).

heard another one recently regarding a local bank. seems there is a local family who is known to be very well off financially. a certain bank employee makes it her business to constantly monitor their bank account to find out about their latest purchases, i.e. new Jags, diamond rings, vacations, swimming pools etc etc. and WE can all rest easy at night knowing this employee keeps ALL confidential bank account information confidential.......right.

bottom line?? the word "Privacy" is hereby removed from all dictionaries. it doesn't exist anymore. the system is working.

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Old 10-30-2009, 11:46 AM
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HIPPA regulations seem to me to be alot like many other legal strictures regarding privacy and secrecy. They make a lot of noise and there are laws the authorities can beat people up with, but they really do little to deter determined individuals looking for information they ought not to have or inept, sloppy medical records keepers who leave things lying around and accessible.

The sad fact is that we have NO control over stuff like this. We truly are at the mercy of people who handle such information about us.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:50 AM
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concerning so-called "HIPPA" privacy laws, they appear to not be worth the paper they are written on.

READ THIS:

http://hipaahealthlaw.foxrothschild.com/2007/10/articles/privacy/employees-suspended-for-snooping-about-george-clooney/

personally, I think that ALL of the employees should have been FIRED immediately. apparently, a slap on the wrist and back to work they go (to snoop on you and your family, of course).

heard another one recently regarding a local bank. seems there is a local family who is known to be very well off financially. a certain bank employee makes it her business to constantly monitor their bank account to find out about their latest purchases, i.e. new Jags, diamond rings, vacations, swimming pools etc etc. and WE can all rest easy at night knowing this employee keeps ALL confidential bank account information confidential.......right.

bottom line?? the word "Privacy" is hereby removed from all dictionaries. it doesn't exist anymore. the system is working.
Bottom line is you are just ranting about nothing. 2 hardly significant incidences do not indicate that something works or doesn't work. In fact, that it comes to light and there is some action being taken means it does work. Of course, as we can see in your rant, it doesn't work the way YOU want it to. IOW, if it doesn't work 100% it doesn't work. What is the percentage of really serious transgressions? IOW, what percentage results in something really bad happening. For instance, how many leaks of information result in a person being denied insurance or a job or breaks up a marriage?

Personally, I would rather scrap HIPPA and MIPPA altogether but to say that the system isn't working is a little bit of a stretch at this time. HIPPA is a very recent thing.
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I know people who work in the mental health field as well as people who work in hopspitals and other healthcare facilities. There's a lot of noise about being careful, but people are people. Even when they are conscientious, people still make mistakes. It's just that now that our medical records are accessible over the internet, they are accessible to all sorts of people we didn't neccessarily intent to have access to them.
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Bottom line is you are just ranting about nothing. 2 hardly significant incidences do not indicate that something works or doesn't work. In fact, that it comes to light and there is some action being taken means it does work. Of course, as we can see in your rant, it doesn't work the way YOU want it to. IOW, if it doesn't work 100% it doesn't work. What is the percentage of really serious transgressions? IOW, what percentage results in something really bad happening. For instance, how many leaks of information result in a person being denied insurance or a job or breaks up a marriage?

Personally, I would rather scrap HIPPA and MIPPA altogether but to say that the system isn't working is a little bit of a stretch at this time. HIPPA is a very recent thing.
thanks for the enlightenment. after coffee, I'm off to see Dr. Death and Nurse Nosey to have them check out my concerned-about-nothing-of-importance attitude......
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Old 10-30-2009, 12:13 PM
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I know people who work in the mental health field as well as people who work in hopspitals and other healthcare facilities. There's a lot of noise about being careful, but people are people. Even when they are conscientious, people still make mistakes. It's just that now that our medical records are accessible over the internet, they are accessible to all sorts of people we didn't neccessarily intent to have access to them.
If you want the sort of thing where medical records are shared, you are going to have such problems. Sooner or later, someone is going to find a way to hack into the database and see what is going on. However, I doubt it is going to be that simple as going on Google and keying in your name.
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thanks for the enlightenment. after coffee, I'm off to see Dr. Death and Nurse Nosey to have them check out my concerned-about-nothing-of-importance attitude......
You aren't George Clooney. Doubt anyone will want to talk about your records.

Your's wasn't a concerned about nothing attitude. You were saying it wasn't working. We haven't had this silly thing run long enough and there aren't enough incidents that I have heard of compared to the millions of records processed. What do you expect me to think? 2 incidences out of 1 million doesn't signify that it isn't working.

Again, if they want to get rid of it so the MD can leave messages on the phone instead of us playing phone tag, I'm for scrapping the stupid thing.
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bottom line is this: once an individual gives information to another individual, that information is no longer private.

why? because of one thing and one thing only. people tend to be nosey busy bodies who want to find out anything and everything about the neighbor across the street, the patient that was just admitted, the banking customer, etc etc. one author I recently read has it right:

"People are no d*** good".
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The sad fact is that we have NO control over stuff like this. We truly are at the mercy of people who handle such information about us.
Indeed. The government loves it because they aren't doing it, private enterprise is doing it. Private enterprise will always give the government the info so the government will help them with beneficial laws.
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bottom line is this: once an individual gives information to another individual, that information is no longer private.

why? because of one thing and one thing only. people tend to be nosey busy bodies who want to find out anything and everything about the neighbor across the street, the patient that was just admitted, the banking customer, etc etc. one author I recently read has it right:

"People are no d*** good".
I think I have always said that people are basically bad. If they are good today, wait around. Given time, they will become bad. Sooner or later, the bad in them will come out.
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Private enterprise will always give the government the info so the government will help them with beneficial laws.
Right. That is why there is HIPPA. Because it benefits the private enterprise in some obscure way. MIPPA also helps private insurance. Sure. By that account, this latest debacle to be, aka health plan will give the insurance companies a huge boost which is why they are for those favorable laws.
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If your information is on a computer ANYONE can access it. The hospital did what it needed to to do WITHIN HOSPITAL GUIDELINES.
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the last few times I've been to the ER, it went like this:

1. Case assigned to a PRIMARY care physician
2. 1 - 4 nurses depending on length of time in the ER
3. if sent for MRI, X-RAY or CT, a radiology technician is involved.
4. Film sent to Radiologists or Neuroradiologists for read and interpretation.

add that up news fans and the number of people at the hospital who have a "need to know" is (drum roll....please) SEVEN.

SEVEN certainly doesn't begin to come close to FORTY busy bodies prying into one's medical file. I've been to the ER for about any and every medical emergency anyone could dream up so I think my numbers are in the ball part..........

the thirty-three who pried into Mr. Clooney's file skirted the edge of the privacy laws. his medical condition(s) is now out on the public airways and somebody, somewhere is angling for a way to make a buck off of it......

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the last few times I've been to the ER, it went like this:

1. Case assigned to a PRIMARY care physician
2. 1 - 4 nurses depending on length of time in the ER
3. if sent for MRI, X-RAY or CT, a radiology technician is involved.
4. Film sent to Radiologists or Neuroradiologists for read and interpretation.

add that up news fans and the number of people at the hospital who have a "need to know" is (drum roll....please) SEVEN.

SEVEN certainly doesn't begin to come close to FORTY busy bodies prying into one's medical file. I've been to the ER for about any and every medical emergency anyone could dream up so I think my numbers are in the ball part..........

the thirty-three who pried into Mr. Clooney's file skirted the edge of the privacy laws. his medical condition(s) is now out on the public airways and somebody, somewhere is angling for a way to make a buck off of it......
And don't forget the part about a relative's phone number that was given out to the media by a Security Guard.

Even the Rent-A-Cops have access to your records?

And you would think that they, above all others, would be the ones that would, at least, be the first to refuse requests from the media, to begin with.

I'm going to the hospital next time as the whitest Mexican/Illegal-alien ever to come north from the south..."Mejamo no Englaise! Poke me some more? Insurance Card?? Insurance Card??!!!???!!??!?! I don't need no stee-king Insurance Card!!!!!"

But, hey! Have no further fear...If "O" hears about this, he'll make sure that no one breaks the laws if it's in the new HC Bill.

He's all about trust and making sure you get yours! (Only AFTER you've paid for everyone else!)
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I think I have always said that people are basically bad. If they are good today, wait around. Given time, they will become bad. Sooner or later, the bad in them will come out.
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