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Old 11-19-2009, 10:57 PM
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Conservatism as it exists in the bosom of the American right is essentially a cult, a clique. Mutually reinforced belief. Those outside the cult "just don't get it."

FOX plays to that.
They are the Republican "Onion".

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Old 11-19-2009, 10:59 PM
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It was probably some poor intern sitting in front of ENPS who didn't have any footage so he pulled some footage from the archive server. It's an honest mistake and not anyone trying to make Palin look somehow more amazing then she already isn't.

I work in Television and we have a whole server bank dedicated to stock footage so we don't have to drive out and get 30 second video clips of cornell university everytime they have some stupid announcement.
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:53 PM
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I remember learning this in college. FNC hadn't been invented yet. All networks do it.

It's more about visual interest than intentionally misleading the audience.

On ony televised news the image being shown has little or nothing to do with the actual story. When watching your local news, ask yourself what the live shot has to do with the story? Sometimes the live shots are so far from the story location that at the end when the announcer has to state his location, it's sometimes in a different county!
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:31 AM
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I remember learning this in college. FNC hadn't been invented yet. All networks do it.
All networks show crowds from one day and state that they really occurred on another day? I don't think so.
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It's more about visual interest than intentionally misleading the audience.
How is lying about a piece of video not intended to mislead?
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...Sometimes the live shots are so far from the story location that at the end when the announcer has to state his location, it's sometimes in a different county!
Right. Maybe that's one reason honest networks have their announcers state their locations.

These recent "mistakes" with the fake video are part of a pattern with Fox. If you spend some time with google or mediamatters, you can probably find the times when Fox reported on Republican politicians who had been caught doing something really bad. Fox puts the picture of the politician on the screen with a "D" after his or her name, instead of an "R". They've done it repeatedly. Each time they just say, "Oops."

Fox = Fraud.
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Old 11-20-2009, 06:29 AM
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There's no need for anyone else to "argue with liberals" . . . they do it well enough amongst themselves.

Unlike the mono-flavored "conservative" side of the coin, there's diversity of thought, aplenty, on the liberal side.
You a re kidding, right?
On principle, I agree, there SHOULD be a diversity of opinion among any group of true "liberals". In reality, they are a rather monolithis group. They cannot even allow someone who disagrres with the party line on abortion address the National Convention!
Look at the diversity liberals on health care--they are all for it. Yep; thats diversity for you. You can believe anything we allow.
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You a re kidding, right?
When was the last time you recall that the House and Senate Democrats voted on a measure as a unanimous block, straight down party lines? It happens rarely, which is an indication that there is more of a spread of "far left to moderate right" members in that bigger tent.

How much diversity can be said to exist on the other side?
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How much diversity can be said to exist on the other side?
None.
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Yeah, only FOX does this, no one else. lol
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Old 11-20-2009, 11:48 AM
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Yeah, only FOX does this, no one else. lol
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Oh, how many other major news outlets have problems correctly identifying the party affiliation of a shamed elected official doing a "perp walk?"
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Old 11-20-2009, 01:20 PM
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These recent "mistakes" with the fake video are part of a pattern with Fox. If you spend some time with google or mediamatters, you can probably find the times when Fox reported on Republican politicians who had been caught doing something really bad. Fox puts the picture of the politician on the screen with a "D" after his or her name, instead of an "R". They've done it repeatedly. Each time they just say, "Oops."

Fox = Fraud.
On the DVD Outfoxed, one reporter described his difficulty in being required to make it look like Reagan's birthday was a big deal at the Reagan library. To hear the fellow tell it, it wasn't. He relayed that info but was told to keep trying, to get something.

At one point a group of Jr. High kids showed up and he tried to spin that into excitement.
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Old 11-20-2009, 01:25 PM
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Look at the diversity liberals on health care--they are all for it. Yep; thats diversity for you. You can believe anything we allow.
They are? I don't think the idea of forcing people to purchase insurance industry products is a great one. A bare bones single payer coverage plan for lower income people would be better IMO.
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Saying that "liberals" are all for healtcare reform ignores the polling that the majority of citizens are for reform, however, like kindergarten class visiting a Baskin-Robbins, you aren't going to get uniform agreement on the flavor.

What's the flavor that "all conservatives" want? Presently, the answer is none, and we don't want anyone else to have any either.
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Old 11-20-2009, 03:59 PM
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Yes, I'll surely "get a grip"...........and I'll be observing your posts more carefully in the future..........your rants belong elsewhere.
I think the entire "irrational hatred of Obama" is getting on everyone's nerves, even Huckabee is complaining about it:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/11/huckabee-kneejerk-republican-attacks-on-obama-deplorable.html
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It was probably some poor intern sitting in front of ENPS who didn't have any footage so he pulled some footage from the archive server. It's an honest mistake and not anyone trying to make Palin look somehow more amazing then she already isn't.

I work in Television and we have a whole server bank dedicated to stock footage so we don't have to drive out and get 30 second video clips of cornell university everytime they have some stupid announcement.
But when you do that, it does not go the factual content of the news. It seems everyone of these Fox "mistakes" is directed right at doing that. Got a Republican screwing around in Argentina? Heck, we'll just put a "D" next to his name. Got a child-molesting "Family Values" Congressman? Do the same thing. Want to make Al Gore look like he's making a mint off of global warming? Just chop the sentences out where he says he's giving any money he makes to charity. Got a rally you spent millions promoting that didn't attract a lot of people? Heck, let's run Farrakhan's march and then breathlessly claim "almost a million" showed up when only 40,000 did. Fox has done all of those things. It goes on and on. The right wing can make all the excuses they can make up, but this duck quacks. This is an organized and increasingly obvious campaign to use Soviet-style disinformation techniques on the US populace. Period.
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This is an organized and increasingly obvious campaign to use Soviet-style disinformation techniques on the US populace. Period.
What scares me is that it's working.............just look at this thread.

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