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Old 11-22-2009, 05:59 PM
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It is alarming that he was not canned long ago. He was a lousy doctor and possibly a terrorist sympathizer....
X2.. at least it looks like he was a lousy doctor from the evidence discovered.
He should not have been in any position to advise anyone.


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Old 11-22-2009, 06:01 PM
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The Fort Hood suspect advised Homeland Security on a task panel that reported to the POTUS?
Check report page 29... (not pdf page 29)
and...?
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:32 PM
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OK guys, the point seems to be that a nutcake like Hassan could get on a presidential panel like he did, and as a sub par junior officer who posted damning internet postings as well as bizarre briefings, could even get near a commission on anything. not really a damnation of your beloved Obama, just a question of how? why was on the panel? how did we fail by not screening him out? surely you can put down your bias long enough to see why this is important, for if our security forces are this lax, then we have grave internal problems that need fixing before we lose someone further up the NCA chain.
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:47 PM
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Hasan was on the HS panel during Dubya's tour. Obama's got nothing to do with it.
still relevant. the security policies and people are still the same. wasn''t this a pre-ingauration panel for BHO?



PROCEEDINGS REPORT OF THE HSPI PRESIDENTI TRANSITION TASK FORCE
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:56 PM
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still relevant. the security policies and people are still the same. wasn''t this a pre-ingauration panel for BHO?



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No. It was formed by the George Washington University and as you have pointed out was initiated in April of 2008, long before Obama was elected; and concluded in January. That's Bush territory. Obama had nothing to do with it.
http://glocktalk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=185115&d=1258493947
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:11 PM
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No. It was formed by the George Washington University and as you have pointed out was initiated in April of 2008, long before Obama was elected; and concluded in January. That's Bush territory. Obama had nothing to do with it.
http://glocktalk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=185115&d=1258493947

its actually a clinton change that left that door open for the likes of him
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:14 PM
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Why are you two fringe lefties so strongly defending this guy?
Is it a defense of "this guy" or a defense of logical thought and accuracy? I suppose in some minds, it's okay to sacrifice that in pursuit of getting a message out.

If you can't get your message across without wild exaggeration and emotion, you may want to consider the message.
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Old 11-22-2009, 07:30 PM
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its actually a clinton change that left that door open for the likes of him
You mean there's others?
Tell us more about this "Clinton change" please.
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:41 PM
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Is it a defense of "this guy" or a defense of logical thought and accuracy? I suppose in some minds, it's okay to sacrifice that in pursuit of getting a message out.

If you can't get your message across without wild exaggeration and emotion, you may want to consider the message.
Agreed. Which is why I have not expressed "wild exaggeration" or emotion. This guy as pointed out was not really part of BHO term at all (nor did I say he was in case you did not notice), yet you clearly defend him as you think it will be detrimental to the current POTUS. What part of the shown accusations against him are you ignoring? All of them until the exact day in court when he is "proven" guilty? He is presumed innocent- but that by no measure means he is innocent. I'm no clairvoyant but if he is convicted (of any crime) then we ought to learn from our mistake of allowing him to have the position in the armed forces that he did, and to have any capacity in the USA gov at all. Imagine if he decided that using a hand held weapon was not going to inflict the damage or express his rage adequately and used a bomb which killed hundreds or even thousands. If you are not so now at what point would you or JR or any fringe leftie be "alarmed"?
BTW people have been "wild with emotion" and expressed with exaggerated animation how bad many evil people were and ignored until others learned the truth.

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Old 11-22-2009, 09:22 PM
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Agreed. Which is why I have not expressed "wild exaggeration" or emotion. This guy as pointed out was not really part of BHO term at all (nor did I say he was in case you did not notice), yet you clearly defend him as you think it will be detrimental to the current POTUS.
Maybe you IMPLIED it was the current POTUS. See "Imply" is in the mind of those you are speaking to- not your own mind. You can say "I did not mean to imply that"- and I can say that in my my mind you implied that- and you cannot say what did or did not occur in my mind.
Maybe you say "I didn't imply that" well you can think that all you want and post what you think- that implies something to me. Does it imply the same thing to you? If not then obviously you think it does not imply that and I do. Who is correct? Neither to each other, and both to himself. No one can ever climb into someone else's mind- and so there is no way for you to say you are incorrect in saying I did not imply this when I said that. The logic may be hard for you to understand but that in no way means it's false.

If I said "I'm gonna kick your ass", you may think that means I will come over and use my leg and foot to actually kick you in the buttocks. That's what you infer from what I said, and to you it's what I implied. You may infer that it means I will get in a fist fight with you and I will win. That's what it implied to you. You may infer that it means I will come over with a two by four and whack you over the head repeatedly until you are dead. That's what it implied to you. Who but you can determine what I implied to you? No one but you. It may mean something else to 10 others that were right there when I said "I'm gonna kick your ass"- and each person may have a different idea what I implied.

BTW, in no way am I inferring or implying that I will act out in violence in any way shape or from against you, in case that is what you may imply with my statement.

Got it now or do you need more examples?
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Old 11-22-2009, 10:05 PM
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/nidalhasan.asp

He was not on the panel. He was an audience member at an event that was open to the public. He RSVP'd which got his name on the list.

Can you people not think for yourselves? Must the rest of the MERCEDES BENZ forum continually be accosted by irrelevant political drivel?

I know I can ignore any single thread, but how many never-ending trails of internet gibberish need to be here? Isn't there somewhere else in the entire world wide web where you can post and discuss this?
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Old 11-22-2009, 10:42 PM
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Must the rest of the MERCEDES BENZ forum continually be accosted by irrelevant political drivel?
I agree.

Trolling violations will begin for this type of behavior commencing today.

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