A wise man once said, "A will that has sacrificed everything including survival on the achievement of a definite chief aim will very likely prevail."
Very few other countries had the will to win, just to survive, and so, they lost and were conquered. Napoleon Hill wrote a very interesting piece on the German, Japanese, and Russian mentality of that period. Now days, the Taliban, Iraqis, Afgans, etc. have that kind of will...

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Hitler didn't invade Switzerland because he didn't need to. The Swiss, armed with any weapon, were not standing in the way of Hitler's plans. Besides, the Nazis needed a safe place to send their money.

The Swiss refused entry to thousands of Jewish refugees while the Swiss government already knew that they would be sent to the camps and would face death.
There is no reason to celebrate the Swiss for there roll during WWII.

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Bingo, we have a winner. Switzerland maintained its "independence" because of their banking industry and reputation for extreme discretion on financial matters. If the Swiss ever outlived their usefulness they would have been no match for Nazi Germany.

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You guys don't want to pay for Iraq. Wait till you see the bill for 3 years of universal service.

But it will make outstanding citizens...

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You would have outstanding citizens if they were following a policy that gave them the opportunity to do things that made them outstanding. Now we have soldiers who become outstanding citizens in spite of the policy...

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What policy is that?

Yup, three years of welfare for young people who could be contributing to the economy. I really need to pay more taxes?

Why is it that the two most liberal folks here don't want to pay for believed tax increases associated with universal service, yet the left is willing to raise taxes and spend like the planet has never seen on other things?
Since when would a universal military service plan raise taxes? If crime dropped and we had three years of service- military or civilian corp- they would be doing projects for the civilian sector.
I don't know about you- but I'd sure rather pay my taxes to see folks in service than see it go to welfare junkies.

The swiss have it correctly- a group with common backgrounds tends to move in concert with each other and has less friction.

I'm definitely a fiscal conservative; I do not want to pay more taxes for anything; especially anything to do with the military. Have you ever seem me in favor of anything that would raise my taxes? I am always in favor of less government, including less military.

How would "universal service" not cost the taxpayers more money? What would they do that would off-set current publicly supported activities? What makes you think "universal service" would reduce crime? You are talking about creating a large number of new federal employees with no useful mission. This is just another big government program, similar to public works programs that were created during the depression. I don't think we can afford this experiment in social engineering at the moment. If this is what you really want to do, just implement a military draft; you don't have to give it a new name and you can pay them as little as you want.

If you want to pay for something with my money, how about some job training for unemployed/underemployed people supporting families?

[QUOTE=Craig;2358218]I'm definitely a fiscal conservative; I do not want to pay more taxes for anything; especially anything to do with the military. Have you ever seem me in favor of anything that would raise my taxes? I am always in favor of less government, including less military.

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And you voted for Obama I don't get it. Did you not read the prospectus?

Let's start with the basic numbers, since you have implied you know them. How many individuals would be required to serve?
But I have no expectation you can provide those figures since you have no understanding of g'ment spending and taxes for the last 25 years.

I did not say I knew the "basic numbers" and I never used that term. You say that, then you say you have no expectation "...since you have not understanding...". Strange how you believe you can speak for others you are talking to and tell them what they know. Let's be honest- you just don't like what I say and you are trying your best to get me to cross the line and get infractions. Quite childish attempts, really.

Hitler didn't invade Switzerland not out of fear that he would loose because the civilians were armed but because the Swiss were fencing the gold that he stole from the Jews. In return they were supplying him with arms. It is the same reason that he didn't invade the Vatican. The Vatican was turning over Jews to Mussolini and issuing travel documents to escaping Nazis.