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Old 12-14-2009, 11:02 AM
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I found a Samsung at 1680 x 1050 at an attractive price:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3920261&SRCCODE=NEXTAG&cm_mmc_o=2mHCjCWw0fzTCjCVqHCjCdwwp

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That was one of the models I was going to recommend

I only held back, after seeing that it supposedly handled 1080P (which is odd, because it's higher than the native resolution - the specs on newegg were confusing, to say the least). After looking at the display area in millimeters, it's definitely 16:10. Sounds like a winner!

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Old 12-14-2009, 02:27 PM
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Brian -

I just finished a TON of research before buying a new LCD. I ended up purchasing a Dell U2410. It's a fantastic monitor.

Some caveats/advice -

1 - Get a PVA or IPS panel. Most LCDs (especially the cheaper ones) have TN panel technology. The worst thing about this panel type is that the viewing angles are really poor. Unless you are looking dead center, there is considerable fade - both in color and brightness. This is VERY noticeable if you get a larger screen, say 22" or more. Since many cheaper monitors also lack height adjustment, this can be an annoying issue to deal with if you spend a fair bit of time staring at your monitor. IPS panels have the best color reproduction and tend to be the most expensive. PVA (or MVA) panels are somewhat in between and are an excellent choice as well, though they can be hard to find.

2 - The best 24" panel is probably the NEC 2490WUXi, however these are expensive (~$1K).

3 - The Dell U2410 is an IPS panel and is loaded with every option in terms of connections - from VGA to DisplayPort and everything in between. It is a wide gamut monitor, but more and more are anyway and it has two RGB modes if you want a smaller color space. If you don't know what this means, don't worry about it. The picture quality and sharpness of text are both excellent.

4 - Definitely go for a 16:10. I'm not sure why so many manufacturers are pushing the 16:9 other than for movies, etc. but most people will have a flatscreen for TV viewing anyway. The extra vertical height is useful if you actually work on your PC...

The U2410 has a couple of known issues. One is a pink/green tint that some specimens seem to have (mine is fine) and there is some dithering in the RGB modes. Dithering is a slight pixelation effect noticeable when rendering grey shades. This dithering only effects the monitor's RGB modes - it has 5 other modes you can choose from anyway (dithering free). Dell has apparently fixed the dithering issue via a firmware update and they are now apparently shipping the newest revision (though I would call to confirm before ordering).

The U2410 has been going on sale and you should be able to get it for $500 or less. I was able to negotiate a lower price than list (which is $750 CDN) by simply opening a small business account online with Dell and speaking with a rep. He gave me a substantial discount over the phone.

For $500, you'd be hard pressed to get a better 24" monitor IMO.

Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Old 12-14-2009, 05:19 PM
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That was one of the models I was going to recommend

I only held back, after seeing that it supposedly handled 1080P (which is odd, because it's higher than the native resolution - the specs on newegg were confusing, to say the least). After looking at the display area in millimeters, it's definitely 16:10. Sounds like a winner!
Thanks, I'll get it.

I don't see the need to spend $500. on a 24" monitor for the GF where she uses it for e-mail and some web surfing............maybe one hour per day.

The 22" Samsung would be a substantial improvement over the failed 20".
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Old 12-14-2009, 05:28 PM
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I have a Samung T240hd. I would recommend that for anyone... I can run my xbox 360, my bluray, and my computer. I just switch the inputs. The less device available T240 is also a good pick. It could only be used as a monitor though... Might want to go to a store that hast he monitors you're looking for, and do some looking...
The fact that the T240 or T240hd play at 1080P for native input from a dvd player really attracted me....
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Old 12-19-2009, 01:39 PM
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Here's an update, and another thanks to all here.

I opened up the 3 bad monitors and replaced all the capacitors of a certain style, several on each board were showing bulges.

I even found a very bad one once I removed it on 2 of the 3.

I have ALL 3 working !!!!!!!!!!!!!

9 bucks in parts, 8.50 shipping ( Arrgh), and a couple of hours of time.
Actually the desoldering and putting them back together was the worst part.
And I have enough parts to fix another one or 2.

Did end up with 3 screws leftover, I know where 2 go, I noticed them after I had gotten them partially back together. Not bad considering the 15 or 20 screws in each.
Since the board and bracket they go to had 4 screws holding them in place I figured missing the 4th wasn't a real issue.

BUT THEY ALL WORK NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks again to the guys that mentioned they fixed theirs and whoever named JameCo.

Maybe not really worth the time and effort at prices of new ones, but very rewarding.
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Old 12-19-2009, 03:48 PM
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That's good to know. I missed out on a few rather large LCD tvs in the Seattle area that needed this simple fix, they were FREE! Some other techno-geek must have snagged them, oh well.
As far as reliability, I have a 19" widescreen Envision that is two years old. I had a giant HP CRT that started randomly shutting off, and Best Buy had a huge online pre-Thanksgiving day sale. I got the monitor for $100, free shipping. The only thing that would be nicer is if it had the speakers in it as well, it would save some space on the desk for other clutter.
It's usually on for 8-16hrs a day seven days a week, plus it's been through three moves. Screen does dim a bit towards the edges, but it's not a huge deal since I usually sit a ways back from it.
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Old 12-26-2009, 07:11 PM
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That was one of the models I was going to recommend

I only held back, after seeing that it supposedly handled 1080P (which is odd, because it's higher than the native resolution - the specs on newegg were confusing, to say the least). After looking at the display area in millimeters, it's definitely 16:10. Sounds like a winner!
I bought that monitor for $200. after a $10. rebate from Paypal..........no tax and no shipping.

I'm looking at it as I type and the display is amazingly brilliant. Had to turn the brightness down to 50% or I'd need sunglasses.

With a three year warranty, I'm very pleased.

One interesting aspect of the monitor...........it's both a computer monitor and a TV all in one. The instructions, however, say nothing about selecting the mode............so I struggled with a screen full of snow and the words "no signal" for about an hour.
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For $395 with 2-year warranty at Costco, I just replaced my 32" 720p with a 32" 1080p - what a world of difference in desktop space! We don't watch TV in the house, these "TVs" were/are used as PC monitors. I stopped messing around with the dinky ones and went to a 32" a year ago. Tons of desktop space, and I can work on spreadsheets, have multiple browser instances open, all while watching a DVD in a good-sized window in another corner. I don't think I can ever go back.
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Old 12-27-2009, 09:15 AM
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For $395 with 2-year warranty at Costco, I just replaced my 32" 720p with a 32" 1080p - what a world of difference in desktop space! We don't watch TV in the house, these "TVs" were/are used as PC monitors. I stopped messing around with the dinky ones and went to a 32" a year ago. Tons of desktop space, and I can work on spreadsheets, have multiple browser instances open, all while watching a DVD in a good-sized window in another corner. I don't think I can ever go back.
I'm sitting about 18" from the 22" and I cannot fathom using anything larger at this distance. It's so large that my head must move to take in the entire screen............the eyes just don't cut it.

.............32" on a desktop...........
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Old 12-27-2009, 11:16 AM
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I have a 24" on my desk, and that' plenty large for me. It's a wide (movie) format and I can easy put two documents side by side and work on them. I have it all the way on the back corner of my desk. The only problem is the small type on the icons if I set it to the maximum bit size.

It is pretty nice for watching movies.
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Old 12-27-2009, 12:40 PM
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I'm sitting about 18" from the 22" and I cannot fathom using anything larger at this distance. It's so large that my head must move to take in the entire screen............the eyes just don't cut it.

.............32" on a desktop...........
I use a 32" 1080p HDTV as my primary computer monitor. I have to sit pretty far back to use it.

Glad you like the monitor !
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I use a 32" 1080p HDTV as my primary computer monitor. I have to sit pretty far back to use it.

Glad you like the monitor !
Yup, I think the 32 1080 is perfect. Everything is so small that it doesn't matter how close you are to it. I can have multiple windows, apps, and a movie going all at the same time. You really should try it. You won't be able to go back to a dinky monitor.
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Old 12-27-2009, 11:52 PM
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I'm sitting about 18" from the 22" and I cannot fathom using anything larger at this distance. It's so large that my head must move to take in the entire screen............the eyes just don't cut it.

.............32" on a desktop...........
I agree on not needing anything bigger. At work I use two "square" 19" LCD's next to each other (I do separate tasks on each). At home I have just one 20" wide screen currently.....I might consider a 22-24" when it dies some day, but never 32" for a desktop.

My brother is insane, he uses a 22" PC monitor and a 32" HDTV next to each other.

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