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#16 12-15-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chas H

Elsewhere is likely China. Unless the Europeans are hedging their investment in Airbus.

Yup, most of the U.S. dollars that go to china come back as investments in U.S. companies.

MTI · #17 12-15-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pj67coll

I'm not sure they are as structurally sound as metal.

- Peter.

Quite the opposite, composites are considerably stronger by weight.

truckinik · #18 12-15-2009, 09:56 PM

It seems nice, but I love the way the old 747 Jumbo, with it's bulbous roof and nose looks. It just looks so friggin cool, even if it isn't as streamlined.

Chas H · #19 12-15-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig

Yup, most of the U.S. dollars that go to china come back as investments in U.S. companies.

Money makes the world go 'round.

MTI · #20 12-15-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by truckinik

It seems nice, but I love the way the old 747 Jumbo, with it's bulbous roof and nose looks. It just looks so friggin cool, even if it isn't as streamlined.

Never really thought of the 747 jumbo as a particularly attractive piece of flying machinery, not like the 707. Other than that dinky upper deck and having passenger seating right up to the nose, was it really necessary?

raymr · #21 12-16-2009, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MTI

Never really thought of the 747 jumbo as a particularly attractive piece of flying machinery, not like the 707. Other than that dinky upper deck and having passenger seating right up to the nose, was it really necessary?

They made business sense 40 years ago, when everything had to be bigger to be better

I was famous for a little while in 8th grade being the first kid in our school to fly on a Pan Am Jumbo to Europe. I see them all the time at airports still, though I haven't flown on one in ages.

ImBroke · #22 12-16-2009, 06:43 AM

Pan Am? You are showing a bit of age there.

jlomon · #23 12-16-2009, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig

I wonder who Boeing's major stockholders are? I wouldn't be amazed if they have plenty of investors from elsewhere (I have to wonder where all those dollars that are sent to china end up?).

I wouldn't be surprised to see Saudi petrodollars being invested in Boeing as well.

#24 12-16-2009, 09:01 AM

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I wouldn't be surprised to see Saudi petrodollars being invested in Boeing as well.

Probably. My point was that there is really no such thing as an american big company.

raymr · #25 12-16-2009, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ImBroke

Pan Am? You are showing a bit of age there.

If you are 20, you could have flown Pan Am (as an infant), though I'll admit to being a bit older than that.

truckinik · #26 12-16-2009, 10:55 AM

Well, The 747, just seems to have a certain elegance, even sort of a muscular look to it. Like it's a force to be reckoned with. The old "Air Force One" looked like a joke when they used the smaller ones. Then they switched to the military 747, and it really just appeared to mean serious business. Sort of along the lines of a Russian Typhoon class Nuclear missile boat, or a good old Battleship. It's almost an icon, or symbol of both serious business, elegance, and attitude that simply can't be mistaken for anything else. Though both the Air Bus, and the new 787 are apparently larger, they just don't symbolize to me, what the old 747 does, in some of the terms I mentioned.

Perhaps I'm being a little bit too sentimental, or even too critical about it.

pj67coll · #27 12-16-2009, 12:03 PM

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Though both the Air Bus, and the new 787 are apparently larger, they just don't symbolize to me, what the old 747 does, in some of the terms I mentioned.

The 787's smaller. It' the Airbus A380 that's larger than the 747. Big mistake on Boeings part I think letting Airbus take the lead in size.

- Peter.

mpolli · #28 12-16-2009, 01:44 PM

The 777 is an awesome plane, if you ever get the chance to fly on one.

pj67coll · #29 12-16-2009, 03:29 PM

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The 777 is an awesome plane, if you ever get the chance to fly on one.

What's better about it compared to the 747? I ask because I intend flying to London for a vacation in June and it looks so far that some of the top choices are between 747's and 777's.

- Peter.

mpolli · #30 12-16-2009, 04:10 PM

Quiet and smooth. And more leg room. Technically it depends how they lay out the seats but generally more leg room. And the seats are a little wider. I flew one only once and it ruined me for any other airplane. And it is really huge inside. I was in the last row and I felt like I was in a flying gymnasium. Pick the 777, you won't be sorry.