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Old 01-06-2010, 01:33 PM
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Of course don't forget all the permits and inspections. Your part of the country is in love with government regulation and loves their permits and inspections!!

I know, i USED to own a business in Frederick, Maryland. Remember, USED to..

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Of course don't forget all the permits and inspections. Your part of the country is in love with government regulation and loves their permits and inspections!!

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Old 01-06-2010, 03:16 PM
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Nah Milford is the worst.

Screw permits if you build it fast enough by the time they hit you with a stop work order it will be done.
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Old 01-06-2010, 03:19 PM
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Nah Milford is the worst.

Screw permits if you build it fast enough by the time they hit you with a stop work order it will be done.
Anywhere with a Historic District Commission adds to the painintheassery as well.
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We don't build in the Historic district. Imagin that they don't like vinyl sidded raised ranch's springing up next to 17th century colonials.


They are busting my uncles balls pretty good now, because his new condos are going to be in the "downtown" district. So they can't use vinyl sidding he has to use hardiboard, which costs more $$$.
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Contact The Swede. He built a garage at the old house he bought in / near Minneapolis, and clad it in hardi board.

I know he posted about it when he had it built. You might find the posts if you're good at the search function.

Yep. It's a stripper for the most part. Hardie-board, not insulated, a few outlets, elec door, one window, one side door, oversized 2 car detached. $20K We painted and added built-in shelves later... That included the concrete skirt (small driveway between garage and alley) and concrete steps.
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Was yours completely site-built, Ted? I contacted a company in PA that builds the major components in their factory, ships them to you, and the assembles them there. I believe they said they could erect a 24 x 24 garage with a second floor room, side and roof it and install the windows and doors in two days. I think the HardiPlank added 50% more over the cost of vinyl siding.
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Morton does a nice pre-fab outbuilding at a reasonable price. Not sure it would meet your aesthetic desires.

I'd love to put up one of those prefab steel building kits on my property, in the back where nobody (including inspectors) would see it. I've not researched pricing, but they seem quite reasonable.
When you are out in the boonies you can get away doing these kind of things
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Had a two bay single story garage built for a client in CT- 4" slab, 8" thick full frost foundation to 42" deep. Walls wood framed, sheathed, sided with vertical T&G red cedar, 4 2' by2' marvin windows, 1 marvin door, 2 garage doors with elec openers, shed roof with EPDM membrane. 40k. No insulation, two lights, two outlets.

I'm doing a 14 by 22 one car with second floor- the concrete, sitework and gravel driveway base bid is about 7k
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Old 01-06-2010, 06:23 PM
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Was yours completely site-built, Ted? I contacted a company in PA that builds the major components in their factory, ships them to you, and the assembles them there. I believe they said they could erect a 24 x 24 garage with a second floor room, side and roof it and install the windows and doors in two days. I think the HardiPlank added 50% more over the cost of vinyl siding.
It was built on-site.
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Nah Milford is the worst.

Screw permits if you build it fast enough by the time they hit you with a stop work order it will be done.
They have become a little more progressive locally. No permits you get to tear it down. If not they send in men and equipment to do it and add the bill to your taxes.

Hundred dollar a day fine applies till it is demolished and cleaned up. I watched them buldoze down a really expensive new cottage near ours less than five years ago. Plus demand another cottage either be moved away or torn down within thirty days. Again near us. The owner spent more moving it than it was worth.

I continually see the refference to hardiboard. What is the stuff? It may have another name here or we do not use it. If only a premium of say 50 percent above vinyl we may not have it. We do have varients on cement board but at a lot more than a 50 percent premium over vinyl.

Even a cement pad for a garage now locally has to be an engineered component. To get around this and it is more sensible anyways. Especially when attached to a house is a frost wall.
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Old 01-06-2010, 11:22 PM
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Personaly I think vinyl is the best sidding material. Some of the new wood imitation vinyl I have seen looks just like wood sidding unless you get right up to it and really look.

I'm not family with hardiboard yet but will be after the condo project next spring. All I know is it costs more which is bad when your going for a ROI.
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Yeah, trying to sneak anything in is a bad idea.

I would think a minimum of 8 to 10K on a simple two car. Up from there depending on what you put in it.

I spent about 75 k on my garage in 1991 but it has space for five cars on two levels and a 900 sf one bedroom above it with a full kitchen, laundry room, cathedral ceilings and a nice balcony. I suppose it would be about double that now, maybe.
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They have become a little more progressive locally. No permits you get to tear it down. If not they send in men and equipment to do it and add the bill to your taxes.

Hundred dollar a day fine applies till it is demolished and cleaned up. I watched them buldoze down a really expensive new cottage near ours less than five years ago. Plus demand another cottage either be moved away or torn down within thirty days. Again near us. The owner spent more moving it than it was worth.

I continually see the refference to hardiboard. What is the stuff? It may have another name here or we do not use it. If only a premium of say 50 percent above vinyl we may not have it. We do have varients on cement board but at a lot more than a 50 percent premium over vinyl.

Even a cement pad for a garage now locally has to be an engineered component. To get around this and it is more sensible anyways. Especially when attached to a house is a frost wall.
In my County, the fine for building w/o a permit was the same as the cost of the Permit--no big deal, IF you otherwise met code.
I've done a fair amount of work over the past few years providing engineering certification on structures built w/o a permit. Its MUCH more expensive than inspections during construction.
My County has gotten more aggresive in finding those hidden structures in the boonies--Google Maps, etc provide the authorities with an "eye in the sky" and they are quickly learning to use it.

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