wow, there's some people on this board who want to talk to you. :D

(not me, i'd rather listen. :D)

I don't think you could get too heavy for me jz.

Kerry is, I assume from reading his posts, a university professor somehow involved with religious studies. When he chooses to use the lower-case in spelling "Christian", it's obviously intentional.

I defy you too to provide an example of a circumstance where a system designed by a few privileged educated individuals instituted by a majority has allowed not only the preservation but the expansion of more liberty and freedom for more people in human history! Yours is the typical carping of the perpetually disaffected, you whimper and whine ad nauseum about wrongs that never should have happened, the wrongs that have long since been remedied, and the wrongs you will always see as still evident. You would have a better, happier life if you understood all that in the context of the human condition and in reality how far that condition has advanced in the incredibly short span of time in which it has occurred. Find another place and time when the rights and privileges enjoyed by the powerful few where so quickly, widely and equitably dispensed among so wide and deep the strata of a body politic?

Most other times and most other places would place your self actualization in far worse circumstances than you are today, here and now. Because if you could do better somewhere else under some other circumstance you’ve only yourself to blame, now don’t you?

Back to the original topic... help me place these individuals against the backdrop of a political map: Glen Beck, Bill O'Rilley, Rachel Meadow.

Glenn Beck= Crazy nutjob with a TV show and a radio mic

Bill O'Reilly=far right conservative on TV and a freak in the bed

Rachal Maddow= Genius lefty proud to have her on my side

And you know this how?:eek:

Wasn't he involved in some kind of sexual harassment/phone sex problems a few years ago?

Nothing particularly intentional about it although Coulter strikes me as a person only using the label as a promotional tool instead of a true believer.

Ok.... perhaps another more 'center of the road' assessment a la Mr. Kerry on the same question, plz?!... :)

Generally intentional then. Maybe at heart you're a Fundamentalist Kerry, others tend not to think in terms such as "true believer".

Beck-Generally libertarian, free market, fiscal conservative. Favors low taxes and limited government. Very concerned with the scope, power, and spending habits of the federal government. I haven't heard much regarding his stance on social issues.

O'reilly-Similar to Beck on government size, spending, and regulation of the free market. More openly socially conservative, though he does support allowing gays to adopt and some other typically "liberal" ideas.

Both Beck and O'reilly have publicly stated that they are not Republicans or Democrats, though most people tend to find their views aligned much more strongly with the Republican party.

Maddow-Don't know. Only watched her show once or twice.

stunning! you make assertions about me that are based on...?

i love it!

uh, just for the record, this swiftly self-correcting perfect democracy neglected to make native americans citizens 'til 1912? i think. wow only 125 years ( i know, more whining. or would that be carping?) 76 years to end slavery. (just a blink of an eye, i know)


please, keep the rhetoric coming. i'm swooning. (but not self actualizing enough, i know.)

mercfan: please read a diverse set of newspapers and journals and websites and draw your own conclusions.

be skeptical.

don't believe anything i say, or anyone else here has to say.

everyone has an agenda.

that's all.

The challenge was to give an example of a better evolution of circumstance than that which exists in America since its inception, take your time!

You’ve voluntarily put forth a body of opinion, now you fret that someone makes assertions based upon it?

Great advice.