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Old 01-11-2010, 09:22 PM
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George Will on Harry Reid

I don't have a link for it but I saw a clip of George Will speaking about the painful incident of Harry Reid using the word "Negro" while talking about Obama. Will (close to the actual quote):

'There wasn't a scintilla of racism in what Harry Reid said. At long last Harry Reid has said something that no one can disagree with and he gets in trouble for it.'

I salute George Will, an honest man and no lightweight.

Al Sharpton is actually talking sense on this incident. Rrs are giving Sharpton some solid material.
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I salute George Will, an honest man and no lightweight.

Don't accuse him of being niggardly in his praise, whatEVER you say...
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Old 01-11-2010, 09:56 PM
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Don't accuse him of being niggardly in his praise, whatEVER you say...


Nor should he say: "I used to have some really gay times with Negroes."
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Old 01-11-2010, 09:59 PM
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First, I've never been too wild about Reid. Don't like his attitude nor demeanor. And I especially don't like that he is a supporter for life of the 1872 mining bill. His sponsors in NV would have it no other way.

However, what he said was clumsy but correct. White America is not going to vote for someone who sounds like Al Sharpton for the next several hundred years. Certain aspects of Af. Am. dialect are just aggressive and obnoxious (see hip-hop). Many people have noted that Obama's English delivery had a lot to do with his success.

But whattayaknow, Rrs are saying that it's about the same as as Trent Lott's remarks on Thurmond.

Reid was voicing support for the first successful Af.Am. candidate for POTUS, albeit clumsily and with foot in mouth. Lott was waxing nostalgic for and singing the merits of a day when Negrahs was kep' out of our churches, our schools, and our swimmin' pools. Oh yeah, Thurmond would have kept this country in line, you betcha. Thurmond, oddly enough, didn't say anything about keepin' Negrahs out of our beds.

Reid used the word Negro in an entirely flat sense. Just to describe a manner of speaking that is well known. His remarks were clumsy but true. Limbaugh, author or not, used the "Magic Negro" phrase to sneer. Not even close.

What's really on display here is some of the Rr talking heads -- Sens. Kyl and Cornyn -- removing any doubt as to their intellectual honesty. It's pure partisan bickering, grasping at any remote similarity to triumphantly prove moral equivalence. Thurmond should have been shunned by anyone with an ounce of sense. Says a lot about SC voters that they couldn't show him the door while still breathing.
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First, I've never been too wild about Reid. Don't like his attitude nor demeanor. And I especially don't like that he is a supporter for life of the 1872 mining bill. His sponsors in NV would have it no other way.

However, what he said was clumsy but correct. White America is not going to vote for someone who sounds like Al Sharpton for the next several hundred years. Certain aspects of Af. Am. dialect are just aggressive and obnoxious (see hip-hop). Many people have noted that Obama's English delivery had a lot to do with his success.

But whattayaknow, Rrs are saying that it's about the same as as Trent Lott's remarks on Thurmond.

Reid was voicing support for the first successful Af.Am. candidate for POTUS, albeit clumsily and with foot in mouth. Lott was waxing nostalgic for and singing the merits of a day when Negrahs was kep' out of our churches, our schools, and our swimmin' pools. Oh yeah, Thurmond would have kept this country in line, you betcha. Thurmond, oddly enough, didn't say anything about keepin' Negrahs out of our beds.

Reid used the word Negro in an entirely flat sense. Just to describe a manner of speaking that is well known. His remarks were clumsy but true. Limbaugh, author or not, used the "Magic Negro" phrase to sneer. Not even close.

What's really on display here is some of the Rr talking heads -- Sens. Kyl and Cornyn -- removing any doubt as to their intellectual honesty. It's pure partisan bickering, grasping at any remote similarity to triumphantly prove moral equivalence. Thurmond should have been shunned by anyone with an ounce of sense. Says a lot about SC voters that they couldn't show him the door while still breathing.
Reid used the word Negro in an entirely flat sense. Just to describe a manner of speaking that is well known.

thats axactly how i felt when clinton was talking about ML who BTW was the same age as his daughter if one cares about those things
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Old 01-11-2010, 10:44 PM
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Not even close. There was nothing mean spirited or dishonest about Reid's remarks. You're stretching here bigtime.
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Reid used the word Negro in an entirely flat sense. Just to describe a manner of speaking that is well known.

thats axactly how i felt when clinton was talking about ML who BTW was the same age as his daughter if one cares about those things
I think you are way off saying ml and chelsea are same age.

anybody know how to fact check that one?
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if bush or beck - BillO had said that instead i am sure good old george would be coming to their aid as well

how is it ( sleazy harry ) gets a pass -- light skined Negro as apposed to WHAT in 2009 and talking at will in a negro dialect - that my friend on the street would get you shot

as the leader of the senate with this decorum lacking statements gets a PASS is outragious -- jzz
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ifhow is it ( sleazy harry ) gets a pass -- light skined Negro as apposed to WHAT in 2009 and talking at will in a negro dialect - that my friend on the street would get you shot
A magic one? (Bill Bennett Radio show) Michael Steele laughed when a caller called Obama the "magic negro" and seemingly agreed with the characterization:
CALLER: It's just like the LA Time said last year or two years ago: He is the magic Negro.
STEELE: Yeah he -- [laughing]. You read that too, huh? [still laughing]
CALLER: Oh yeah. I read that too. Even when things go wrong, he still manages to come out smelling like a rose.
STEELE: Well, yeah.
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Old 01-11-2010, 11:03 PM
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at the time they would never have been friends at that age spread the age difference was 25 and 18 yea i believe or close
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Old 01-11-2010, 11:14 PM
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Yup, Bubba did too much of his thinking with his little head.
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Old 01-12-2010, 06:26 AM
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Its kindof refreshing to have a Chicago area pol who is clean as a peeled egg, who loves his wife (even if she does have big bicepts) and his children as our president.

He really stands a whole host of stereotypes on their ears.

And no matter how much the Palins howl about how liberal he is he truly is governing from the center.
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I guess I'm out of the loop- you cannot call black folks "black" or "negro" anymore? What terms are acceptable? "African-American"? Even if their last ancestors came from Africa over 200 years ago? Then I'd venture to say "white" is racist and you'd better call me "Irish-American" cause my Great Grandfather came from Ireland less about 115 years ago. I don't like Reid, but I don't think what he said was racism. If you talk like a "negro" which really means if you talk like a "n-word" (because they are not the same, or they are if all "negros" listen to and talk like rap, wear their pants around their knees, have gold teeth, call women "ho's") then you will not get elected. Uh...and who here thinks that is false?

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Old 01-12-2010, 08:12 AM
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I have found this entire issue boring and stupid. For the Republicans to compare it to Trent Lott's situation is flat ridiculous. Lott stated we would all be better off if Strom Thurmond, who had run on a platform of segregating the races and denying blacks equality under the law with whites, had been elected president, a truly outrageous comment for a Senate Majority Leader to make. To compare this to Reid's social faux pau is simply moronic.
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