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Old 01-11-2010, 09:25 PM
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I salute George Will, an honest man and no lightweight.

Don't accuse him of being niggardly in his praise, whatEVER you say...
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Old 01-11-2010, 09:56 PM
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Don't accuse him of being niggardly in his praise, whatEVER you say...


Nor should he say: "I used to have some really gay times with Negroes."
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Old 01-11-2010, 09:59 PM
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First, I've never been too wild about Reid. Don't like his attitude nor demeanor. And I especially don't like that he is a supporter for life of the 1872 mining bill. His sponsors in NV would have it no other way.

However, what he said was clumsy but correct. White America is not going to vote for someone who sounds like Al Sharpton for the next several hundred years. Certain aspects of Af. Am. dialect are just aggressive and obnoxious (see hip-hop). Many people have noted that Obama's English delivery had a lot to do with his success.

But whattayaknow, Rrs are saying that it's about the same as as Trent Lott's remarks on Thurmond.

Reid was voicing support for the first successful Af.Am. candidate for POTUS, albeit clumsily and with foot in mouth. Lott was waxing nostalgic for and singing the merits of a day when Negrahs was kep' out of our churches, our schools, and our swimmin' pools. Oh yeah, Thurmond would have kept this country in line, you betcha. Thurmond, oddly enough, didn't say anything about keepin' Negrahs out of our beds.

Reid used the word Negro in an entirely flat sense. Just to describe a manner of speaking that is well known. His remarks were clumsy but true. Limbaugh, author or not, used the "Magic Negro" phrase to sneer. Not even close.

What's really on display here is some of the Rr talking heads -- Sens. Kyl and Cornyn -- removing any doubt as to their intellectual honesty. It's pure partisan bickering, grasping at any remote similarity to triumphantly prove moral equivalence. Thurmond should have been shunned by anyone with an ounce of sense. Says a lot about SC voters that they couldn't show him the door while still breathing.
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First, I've never been too wild about Reid. Don't like his attitude nor demeanor. And I especially don't like that he is a supporter for life of the 1872 mining bill. His sponsors in NV would have it no other way.

However, what he said was clumsy but correct. White America is not going to vote for someone who sounds like Al Sharpton for the next several hundred years. Certain aspects of Af. Am. dialect are just aggressive and obnoxious (see hip-hop). Many people have noted that Obama's English delivery had a lot to do with his success.

But whattayaknow, Rrs are saying that it's about the same as as Trent Lott's remarks on Thurmond.

Reid was voicing support for the first successful Af.Am. candidate for POTUS, albeit clumsily and with foot in mouth. Lott was waxing nostalgic for and singing the merits of a day when Negrahs was kep' out of our churches, our schools, and our swimmin' pools. Oh yeah, Thurmond would have kept this country in line, you betcha. Thurmond, oddly enough, didn't say anything about keepin' Negrahs out of our beds.

Reid used the word Negro in an entirely flat sense. Just to describe a manner of speaking that is well known. His remarks were clumsy but true. Limbaugh, author or not, used the "Magic Negro" phrase to sneer. Not even close.

What's really on display here is some of the Rr talking heads -- Sens. Kyl and Cornyn -- removing any doubt as to their intellectual honesty. It's pure partisan bickering, grasping at any remote similarity to triumphantly prove moral equivalence. Thurmond should have been shunned by anyone with an ounce of sense. Says a lot about SC voters that they couldn't show him the door while still breathing.
Reid used the word Negro in an entirely flat sense. Just to describe a manner of speaking that is well known.

thats axactly how i felt when clinton was talking about ML who BTW was the same age as his daughter if one cares about those things
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Not even close. There was nothing mean spirited or dishonest about Reid's remarks. You're stretching here bigtime.
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Not even close. There was nothing mean spirited or dishonest about Reid's remarks. You're stretching here bigtime.
You are right, there was nothing mean-spirited in Reid's remark.

It was however, incredibly demeaning. So a light-skinned negro who speaks proper English is a "good" candidate, while a dark-skinned black might be percieved as more threatening?
Stupid stupid comments.
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:16 PM
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You are right, there was nothing mean-spirited in Reid's remark.

It was however, incredibly demeaning. So a light-skinned Negro who speaks proper English is a "good" candidate, while a dark-skinned black might be perceived as more threatening?
Stupid stupid comments.
Stupid, but honest. White America is not going to elect Al Sharpton outside of a congressional post where he can draw upon a narrow band of the citizenry.

Jessee Jackson was too black to rise to the top in national electoral politics.

I'm not wild about Reid. Never have been. But I'd take him over Trent Lott in a heartbeat, and this business of conflating Reid's recent remarks and Lott's Thurmond remarks is pure nonsense. Not in the same hemisphere.

Bill Cosby and other prominent blacks have spoken on the value of black youth learning to speak proper English.
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Reid used the word Negro in an entirely flat sense. Just to describe a manner of speaking that is well known.

thats axactly how i felt when clinton was talking about ML who BTW was the same age as his daughter if one cares about those things
I think you are way off saying ml and chelsea are same age.

anybody know how to fact check that one?
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I think you are way off saying ml and chelsea are same age.

anybody know how to fact check that one?

he is a bigger perv than you have been told then when you find that to be correct - jz
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Old 01-11-2010, 11:06 PM
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I think you are way off saying ml and chelsea are same age.

anybody know how to fact check that one?
Lewinsky was a willing adult woman. College girls who have been around a bit can be incredibly assertive. Clinton was weak.
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Lewinsky was a willing adult woman. College girls who have been around a bit can be incredibly assertive. Clinton was weak.


WAS ---------------------- IS


sitting president on 8 pm on TV saying what was it again

i dident have sex with that woman ML

then it was the def of IS yea sell that again IS
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