I will not buy a car I can't work on... - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Skid Row Joe · #1 01-18-2010, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

Old cars are fun, but I'm tired of projects. Newer cars don't require me wrenching on them every weekend. I don't remember the last time I worked on my truck. Changing the oil twice a year and turn the key, sounds good to me at this point.

I wonder if he would think that they're fun if he had an '80s something VW to tear into? he - he

Changing the oil/filters is my kinda car too.

ImBroke · #2 01-18-2010, 10:59 AM

Don't get me wrong, I like simple too. But, I didn't buy the scanners and other things to not use them. I was upset when we had to switch from SAE to metric tools. Well, sort of, it meant I got to buy more tools.

G-Benz · #3 01-18-2010, 11:10 AM

If you need a laptop to work on it, it's not shade-tree mechanics...

Oracle12345 · #4 01-18-2010, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by G-Benz

If you need a laptop to work on it, it's not shade-tree mechanics...

unfornately thats where automotive technology is headed and its done to keep shade tree mechanics from doing the work and dealership making more money. For example you need a scan tool to bleed brakes on more and more makes. its been said that todays cars are complicated as a spaceship.

newer cars are easier to work on in terms of diagnostics

aklim · #5 01-18-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Oracle12345

unfornately thats where automotive technology is headed and its done to keep shade tree mechanics from doing the work and dealership making more money. For example you need a scan tool to bleed brakes on more and more makes. its been said that todays cars are complicated as a spaceship.

newer cars are easier to work on in terms of diagnostics

To get good mileage and creature comforts, there will be complexity. You need a scantool to bleed the brakes because those are anti lock brakes. You can't get good emissions without fuel injection. I know I sold the wife's ATV of 1 year because it was carbed. Changed to EFI and we can go to high altitudes WITHOUT having to screw around with the carb. That sort of thing does not come free.

Oracle12345 · #6 01-18-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

To get good mileage and creature comforts, there will be complexity. You need a scantool to bleed the brakes because those are anti lock brakes. You can't get good emissions without fuel injection. I know I sold the wife's ATV of 1 year because it was carbed. Changed to EFI and we can go to high altitudes WITHOUT having to screw around with the carb. That sort of thing does not come free.

you need a scan tool to bleed brakes not because its abs because the hydraulic system pressures are computer controlled from how much pressure to the calipers, functioning of the calipers. New gms and some mercedes had solenoid controlled calipers. You still had brakes if the electronics failed. most cars with abs doesnt require a scan tool to bleed the brakes.

strelnik · #7 01-18-2010, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Oracle12345

For example you need a scan tool to bleed brakes on more and more makes. its been said that todays cars are complicated as a spaceship.

Aye and where's Scotty and LeForge when you need 'em?

In all seriousness, there are some cars I would not buy because I don't like how they look. New or old.

In Michigan, you can't find a class anywhere that teaches use of the PC on your car, for diagnosis or tuning.

The governor cut back funds to the only state college that had a degree in auto tech, so now there's no BA/BS in auto technology in the state.

This is a part of her program to increase diversity in manufacturing. Huh?

Yet all I ever hear from her is that" Education is the silver bullet."

Yes, we'll make everyone marketing sociologists, they can ask everyone how they feel about certain consumer products.

from their phone.
In the call center.
At $ 5.20 an hour.

JollyRoger · #8 01-18-2010, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nh500sl

I don't understand all of these new cars that I can't work on. Since I can't work on them, I don't want them. I just drove a freinds 1983 300sd with 385K. Still runs and drives great and is much more confortable then then most of the new cars that I have driven.

I had a women come up to me today and ask me how I like my 1992 Volvo 745 turbo wagon. I told her I don't like it, but I love it. She said she had a Subaru that was nine years newer and it was going on it's second head gasket job. Needless to say she said she was going to try to find a nice rear wheel drive Volvo.

This makes me feel good about installing a new winshield in my 1983 633 CSI and new Bilsteins.

Main reason I can't part with my 83 280SL.

raymr · #9 01-18-2010, 02:17 PM

An OBD scanner will take a lot of the fear and mystery out of working on new cars. Some cars even display the codes without needing the scanner. Its not so bad. My car told me it needed a new crankshaft position sensor (Pxxx code). Who would have guessed? Instead of taking it to a shop, I ordered the part online, popped it on the car and its good as new.

Oracle12345 · #10 01-18-2010, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by raymr

An OBD scanner will take a lot of the fear and mystery out of working on new cars. Some cars even display the codes without needing the scanner. Its not so bad. My car told me it needed a new crankshaft position sensor (Pxxx code). Who would have guessed? Instead of taking it to a shop, I ordered the part online, popped it on the car and its good as new.

in that respect working on new cars has gotten easier