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Old 03-18-2010, 09:16 PM
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Just wondering, whats your beef with mitsu?
Well, in looking at literally every vehicle ever produced by them I've still never come across one which has touched on the fringes of being visually pleasing. They're usually boy-racerish large scale Oragami nightmares complete to Spruce Goose style wings and strange plastic angle pieces. It doesn't help that the body is made from the same stuff they wrap around sticks of gum. The metal parts that is. Don't get me started on their spectacular abundance of plastics.The insides are always soul-less and seem designed by a hermaphrodite buried deep in a corporate office bred from birth to never offend or please anyone.

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Old 03-18-2010, 09:19 PM
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On top of that, you couldn't BUY an EV1, only lease one. And they crushed the bloody things when they cancelled the lease program. Plus, you had to use GM's proprietary charger, just couldn't plug it into a standard outlet.

A better electric would have been the Solectria Sunrise - prototype did a run from New York to Boston with battery to spare - twice the range on the same battery pack as the EV1.

Let's hear it for Jeep. I'd nominate my current '05 Jeep Liberty with a VM Motori 2.8 L inline 4 turbo diesel - once you fix some of the nonsense DC cursed the beast with (like no lift pump and a weak-kneed torque converter), 185 Hp and 330 ft/lbs at the rear wheels - show me another 4500 lb brick of an SUV that isn't a hybrid that's trail rated, 4WD, can tow 6000 lbs, and still get over 30 mpg highway.
Jeeps are just good clean fun. I respect the hell out of Subaru for their rally heritige and boxer engines. The EV 1 basically made baby Jesus cry, and early Mustangs are always going to be one of my favorite cars until I die.
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Old 03-18-2010, 11:22 PM
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Well, in looking at literally every vehicle ever produced by them I've still never come across one which has touched on the fringes of being visually pleasing. They're usually boy-racerish large scale Oragami nightmares complete to Spruce Goose style wings and strange plastic angle pieces. It doesn't help that the body is made from the same stuff they wrap around sticks of gum. The metal parts that is. Don't get me started on their spectacular abundance of plastics.The insides are always soul-less and seem designed by a hermaphrodite buried deep in a corporate office bred from birth to never offend or please anyone.
Well, suit yourself. I can say that my Dodge stealth was one of the nicest cars I think came out of the 1990s (after the R129) and that its bubble-gum metal was safer than that of many other cars on the road. Wasn't a w126 with 1/4" German tank steel but it did absorb a 50mph impact and just needed some repair for bodywork (while the guy who hit me totaled his relatively new accord). I think the 4G63T and particularly the 6G73TT are excellent engines on top of decent AWD platforms. I think there are companies that deserve much more criticism than mitsu for their cars.
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I respect the hell out of Subaru for their rally heritige .


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I think Lancia has a much better rallying history.....
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Peugeot had a great racing heritage, but it didn't help sell cars in the USA. In my experience, even the WASP sales people quickly developed the arrogance of a Parisian Frenchman.
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I think Lancia has a much better rallying history.....
Very true, I would give my left arm for a Stratos



But I guess I could probably just build a go cart and it would be about the same size.
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Very true, I would give my left arm for a Stratos



But I guess I could probably just build a go cart and it would be about the same size.

Or....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T0iwD-jVJ0

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I've looked and couldn't find a U.S. importer/manufacturer. Plus finding an Alfa engine over here would be a good mystery. It would be sweet if they made one for a 2JZ-GTE or RB26DETT 200mph gocart!

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