reminds me of a conversation I had recently. someone was complaining about the money a neurosurgeon earns. as I listened to their complaints, I then asked them did they want the $5.00/hour brain surgeon, or the $500/hour brain surgeon? in some cases, you DO want the other guy to make money.

same with the gun manufacturers. it is a good thing they are making money. means they might remain in business tomorrow and the next day. because if they don't make it, your right to purchase a gun might be severely diminished due to low stock/no stock as in BANKRUPT, OUT OF BUSINESS, WE NO SELL NO GUNS BECAUSE WE WENT BUST.

Actually, Britain is an excellent example that gun control reduces crime, along with a lot of other nations....... poor argument. I also doubt the concealed carry argument, as I spend time in both Texas, which has some of the least restrictive gun control laws in the country, and Hawaii, which has some of the most restrictive laws, and I assure you that comparing Houston or Dallas to Honolulu's crime rates will not support your arguments either. I tend to support concealed carry in states with lax gun control simply because I want to even the odds, but I also see the need for sensible gun control - that the right own a gun is a right that can never be taken away, but that right has to be the same as the right to own any other kind of property that could be used in public in a dangerous way, like a car, it should be licensed, insured, and registered so that the public can be protected from it's mis-use.

If you truely believe your statement:

I am married in PA because I have a SC marrage license.
I am legal to drive a Commerical Vehicle in CA because I have a PA CDL.


SO is it legal for me to carry a concealed weapon in NYC because I have a PA concealed carry license??

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Also your Britain statement really does not hold water when you look at the country as a whole and what has happened to the lower level "street type" crime.

While the overall crime rate has dropped the rate of .....I cant remember the term used,strong arm type purse snatches, knife robberies that type of thing HAS gone up.

My opionion and only my opinion is that the criminals know the victims will not be armed so therefore they are an easier target.

SAme thing on this side of the pond, Take any Large Metro area (DC,CHICAGO,DETROIT,Philly) With strict gun control laws you will see that per capita there crime rates are EXTREMLY higher than Say Dallas,Miami,Houston,Memphis(per capita) where the average law abiding person has the easier access to concealed carry.

Does that mean we are both right? maybe Both wrong ?

NO, we have a difference of opinion on how we interpret the results. Always remember that the police are a reactionery force used after the commission of a crime. I for one will live by the analogy that I would rather be judged by twelve than carried by six.

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Works for me, However I would like to see the 17th(?) amemdment appealled. The one that allows for the direct election of the senate. It used to be the state houses selected the senators after the general.

Also the whole electoral college thing needs to looked at but that is another thread

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I have no problems with a company making money. I do have problems with them fear selling to the public, and the dumb public for buying it. Its simply not honest, and not a good way to do business. Also in the long term its going to hurt them because shooting is going to be to expensive. Although a lot of it was greedy dealers as well, some are still sitting on $500 cases of Federal XM193.


They had no problems making money for a couple hundred years before 2008.

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I'm at a loss as to what you are remotely talking about.

back during the gulf war in 1991, I worked for a large oil company. then, as with any war or natural disaster, oil companies automatically raise prices. I suppose that could be called 'fear selling'. the current BP oil disaster will be blamed for 'soaring gas prices'. companies and industries control the prices people pay through fear selling.

this is what the current 'global warming' crap is all about. it is all about making a lotta $$$$$$. create the crisis, then create the solution. oldest trick in the book.

He's referring to reciprocity regarding licenses in each state.

Unfortunately, in the case of his argument, states don't have to honor licenses from other states. They can make it easy on the beauro critters that run the halls of the state's institutions by allowing other state's marriage licenses,etc. but if you are on the fringe of some social situation (concealed weapon permits, gay marriage, etc) expect states to vary heavily on policies.

Personally, this is what makes the United States weak. We're one country, not 50 mini countries like the European Union. State's rights is the only thing that weakens this country as a whole since we are stuck bickering about what some buffoons in Texas want in textbooks or in the case of the interstate highway system back in the early 20th century, states bickering on the quality of the road ways.

When I travel abroad, I say I am from the United States. Not from Pennsylvania.

Finally, one more note. Concealed weapon laws need to be handled as a federal issue. There is too much variation from state to state for a CONSTITUTIONALLY guaranteed right. In one state you're ok and in another state you could go to jail for having a pistol.

It's disgusting.

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register (n)

late 14c., from M.L. registrum, alteration of L.L. regesta "list, matters recorded," from L. regesta, neuter pl. of regestus, pp. of regerere "to record," lit. "to carry back," from re- "back" + gerere "carry, bear." Some senses influenced by association with L. regere "to rule." The verb is attested from late 14c., from O.Fr. registrer (13c.). Cash register is from 1875, from earlier meaning "device by which data is automatically recorded" (1830).


control

early 14c., "to check, verify, regulate," from Anglo-Fr. contreroller "exert authority," from M.L. contrarotulus "a counter, register," from L. contra- "against" (see contra) + rotulus, dim. of rota "wheel" (see roll). From a medieval method of checking accounts by a duplicate register. Sense of "dominate, direct" is mid-15c. As a noun from 1580s. Related: Controlled (1580s; of rent, from c.1930); controlling (1520s). Control group in scientific experiments is attested from 1952 (from a sense of control attested since 1875). Control freak is late 1960s slang.

regulate

c.1630, from L.L. regulatus, pp. of regulare "to control by rule, direct" (5c.), from L. regula "rule" (see regular). Regulation is first recorded 1672, "act of regulating;" sense of "rule for management" is first attested 1715. Regulator is first recorded 1655; in Eng. history, with a capital R-, "member of a commission appointed in 1687 to manage county elections." In U.S. history, applied to local posses that kept order (or disturbed it) in rural regions c.1767-71. Meaning "clock by which other timepieces are set" is attested from 1758.

gun 'laws' control you BECAUSE YOU CHOOSE TO BE CONTROLLED. on the other hand, hells angels, bloods, crips, outlaws, warlocks, MS13 and others could care less about ink written on a page or what you think about what they should or should not have.

some of the gangs are better equipped than the cops. if so-called gun laws worked, then why are these out law gangs able to pack enough heat to start a war?

I don't think any of them have called you on the phone asking if it would be OK with you if they carry a particular piece of equipment.

I'll say it again: We are Schmucks who enjoy being played.

Check your state laws, it may be legal to purchase a handgun from an individual without involving a Federal Fierarms License , as you would if you were to purchase from an out of state company or person, or even a local gun store.
As mentioned, this does not involve long arms, but internet companies want to do that anyway.

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I recently spoke with a retired police officer who informed me that if someone breaks into his house, he will shoot first and then call the cops. his feeling was by the time the cops arrive, the party is over. the sad thing is there are cases where John Q. Public is charged for defending himself or his family. the criminals seem to be acquiring more rights and the rest of us are taking it in the shorts.

- the system is working.

Give us an link to a real case were that happened.
Then do a search for "police break into wrong home".

I'll make it a point to check under my bed to make sure there aren't any kings down therel. In the mean time, I might point out that you have the word "rule" in the sense of "rules and regulations" confused with "rulers", i.e, kings with tin foil hat crowns. I also find it hilarious that you seem ignorant of the fact that the 2nd Amendment itself contains the evil king-word "regulate".

BINGO! you hit the nail on the head, THERE ISN'T ANY KING!