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Old 08-31-2010, 05:42 PM
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Reduced to inane ad hominems in a desperate plea for attention; such a waste, but not a surprise!
BillyBob, your quotational attempts are purely 'retro'. You should try to evolve backwards, maybe you'd gain some direction. Maybe.

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Old 08-31-2010, 05:44 PM
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You are aware, I am sure that AMTRAK verified Beck's allegation.
In the end, he was proved right, and the view girls were wrong.
I think even Glenn admitted there that he had lampooned Goldberg and Walters innacurately.
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Old 08-31-2010, 05:47 PM
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I'm not comparing Beck to Hitler but to Goebbels.

He's been caught (Beck) slanting the truth if not outright lying many times.

Hitler was an ogre but there are plenty of power hungry, unethical fools still out and about.
Goebbels was a journalist, a bank clerk and was a caller on the stock exchange according to Wiki. As I said, no Hitler, no Goebbels. He was nothing without AH being the front man. Supposedly he had the gift of the gab too. Hitler was better, he was dragging on the coat tails of Hitler. But in any case, I think it would be unfair to compare Beck to Goebbels. Beck doesn't have anyone significant that would want him around. Goebbels did.

Beck slanting the truth? No. It can't be. You surely must be mistaken. Next you will be telling me that Rush was framed like a picture for the narcotics use.

Be that as it may, Hitler was extremely successful. IIRC, he had a friend who was a magician teach him the expressions, gestures and mannerisms that he used on stage to fool people. As they say, the bigger the smile, the sharper the knife. Hence, I avoid those nice smiling people. The nicer they sound, the further I run from them. Works very well.
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Old 08-31-2010, 05:53 PM
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BillyBob, your quotational attempts are purely 'retro'. You should try to evolve backwards, maybe you'd gain some direction. Maybe.
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Old 08-31-2010, 07:38 PM
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Exactly. The way scams "work" is that the "mark" is greedy, and thinks he is the smart one who is taking advantage of someone else.

There is way too much " I am a victim" mentality out there. No one wants to be responsible for the results of their choices.
Scams are often used on the elderly, I bet a large percentage of goldline
customers are older conservatives that are not wealthy.

This is a bit like breaking into a house and blaming the homeowner for not having better locks.

GB needs to take responsibility and restore his honor.
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Old 08-31-2010, 08:38 PM
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customers are older conservatives that are not wealthy.

This is a bit like breaking into a house and blaming the homeowner for not having better locks.

GB needs to take responsibility and restore his honor.
Then if you are not wealthy and cannot afford to waste money, invest AFTER having done your homework.

No it is not. This is like you lending me money to gamble because I have a system that just can't lose.

Why? He was smart, they were stupid. As long as he didn't do anything illegal, tough. Honor and $0.50 doesn't buy much more than a can of soda in some places. He, like everyone else out there, is out for something for themselves.
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Why? He was smart, they were stupid. As long as he didn't do anything illegal, tough. Honor and $0.50 doesn't buy much more than a can of soda in some places. He, like everyone else out there, is out for something for themselves.
That brings his goal of "Restoring Honor" into question.
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That brings his goal of "Restoring Honor" into question.
In your mind, no doubt.
Goldline is a sponsor and he clearly states that. He also says "Its not for everybody; it may not be for you..."
There a several ways to own gold; this is one. Don't like, don't buy it. I haven't bought it.

It seems like the argument starts with not liking GB, then looking for reasons. Don't like him" Don't listen, or watch.
Sort of like me and Air America--oh, there aren't even around for me to not watch, are they.
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Old 08-31-2010, 09:58 PM
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That brings his goal of "Restoring Honor" into question.
And here I thought you had no sense of humor. Restoring something means you HAD it in the past. Earn it first then you can lose it and perhaps restore it. You cannot restore something you didn't earn because you couldn't have lost it in the first place. What did he do to earn it?
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In your mind, no doubt.
Goldline is a sponsor and he clearly states that. He also says "Its not for everybody; it may not be for you..."
There a several ways to own gold; this is one. Don't like, don't buy it. I haven't bought it.

It seems like the argument starts with not liking GB, then looking for reasons. Don't like him" Don't listen, or watch.
Sort of like me and Air America--oh, there aren't even around for me to not watch, are they.
Goldline is a scam. Scams have no honor and neither does Beck. Your attempt to defend him reflects poorly on your honor.
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:15 PM
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It is actually a criminal act to promote a product you do not think is good. This is only in the US as far as I know, so if American actors make a commercial in Japan for big bucks and lie through their teeth about how much they love a product that is OK. It is not ethical, but it is OK with the law.

Reagan was one of the people that pushed for this law. When he was an actor the studio owned his image and sold it to the tobacco companies so ads could be made where Reagan talked about how much he loved smoking. Reagan hated smoking and thought it was bad for you, but he became the national spokesperson for at least one brand of smokes. He had no say in this matter and, since the studio paid him a salary, he received no pay for the print ads.

Now if you endorse a product you, by law, must think you are telling the truth. You may be wrong, or I may not agree with you, but if you think it is true then it is OK.

So Beck must think that Goldline is a good deal. This says little for his investment skills if all the bad things being said about Goldline are true.
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:27 PM
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It is actually a criminal act to promote a product you do not think is good.

So Beck must think that Goldline is a good deal. This says little for his investment skills if all the bad things being said about Goldline are true.
Not sure about that but do you have a legal cite for that?

As that black guy in Ghostbusters said when asked if he believed in the Loch Ness monster, etc, etc: If there is a steady paycheck, I'll believe in anything you say. Or words to that effect. So he has little investment skill. BFD. Nobody even said he was a financial genius. Besides, Remember our good friend Rene who slit his wrists after Madoff got the better of him?
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In your mind, no doubt.
Goldline is a sponsor and he clearly states that. He also says "Its not for everybody; it may not be for you..."
There a several ways to own gold; this is one. Don't like, don't buy it. I haven't bought it.

It seems like the argument starts with not liking GB, then looking for reasons. Don't like him" Don't listen, or watch.
Sort of like me and Air America--oh, there aren't even around for me to not watch, are they.
"it seems", that you "sort of" make a lot of conclusions based not on facts, but "almost as if" scenarios. your love of suppositions is shared by mr. beck. wow, i think i sense a pattern.
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Old 09-01-2010, 09:38 AM
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Not being a network lawyer I cannot put my finger on the exact law at the moment. I do remember when it kicked in though. It was odd watching the 'soul searching' going on among many people who you would swear have no soul.
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Megan McCain was just on ABC's Good Morning America show. She whined about the new couches in the Oval Office, saying they were not to her taste, and she moaned about the First Lady wearing shorts.

George S. asked her about Beck's rally. He wanted to know what it all meant to the Republicans. Her answer was just, "I don't know."

I found this somewhat refreshing. She was on the spot and had no focus group approved talking points to throw out so she just told the truth. This may seem like much, but when was the last time you heard an off the cuff statement from either side that was unspinable?

We used to tell new professionals in the oil biz that if they did not have an answer right off the top of their heads it was not that important since no one is born knowing everything. We needed to know if they could answer our questions and what we needed was fact and not opinion. We kept them in the loop so they would know what the final answer was and then we pointed out that they had learned something. They soon came to understand that saying 'I don't know' was not a bad thing because soon they would know.

Hopefully more political types will start to take a wait and see position on things like Beck's rally. I remember a fellow in the Bible who found himself in the presence of God who, as the Bible says, 'Did not know what to say so he just started talking'.

Too many commentators do that today and then have to bend over backwards to justify what they said. Perhaps they should just try being honest?

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