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Matt L 09-17-2010 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Billybob (Post 2546774)
This is what Matt said:



And this was my response to it:



We'll all be waiting for you to explain the "flailing" as you perceive it!

I was replying to your response to someone else. That should make it apparent that I was not accusing you of saying that I needed to denounce the guy. But you made it clear that anyone left of you shouldn't be able to denounce him as a nutcase, because we are him.

In the same way, you are McVeigh.

In reality, I hope, that way is not at all.

tonkovich 09-17-2010 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Billybob (Post 2546768)
This is what was said:





Tonkovich is trying to divorce the political views of Brezik from him (Brezik) claiming Brezik was “just a nut” as if he (Brezik) was apolitical. Tonkovich in my view is trying to depoliticize Brezik in part because the political views expressed by Brezik are similar to views expressed on this forum by tonkovich. Tonkovich in my view can’t disassociate his own views from the similar views of Brezik so he is left no alternative but to attempt to separate Brezik from his politic positions. Tonkovich in my view would prefer that Brezik be orphaned from the similar views held by toncovich.

You then made a statement:



To which I responded to you:



And now your complaint is:



I’m not sure I understand the basis of your complaint? Tonkovich is a big boy who is able to express himself, don’t you think?

divorce myself? i don't recall marrying the man.

again, you really don't know what i think. "che"? he was a silly dreamer who also enjoyed executing people. why would i be interested in him? (besides, the whole "che" thing was big maybe ten, fifteen, twenty? years ago. which again proves that the "stabber" was more than a little "out of touch". and, seemingly, so are you? what's next, linking "raves" and ecstasy to democrats, socialists and satanic ritual murder? )

Billybob 09-17-2010 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt L (Post 2546779)
I was replying to your response to someone else. That should make it apparent that I was not accusing you of saying that I needed to denounce the guy. But you made it clear that anyone left of you shouldn't be able to denounce him as a nutcase, because we are him.

In the same way, you are McVeigh.

In reality, I hope, that way is not at all.

You can denounce him as he is a left wing mental case not as you want him to be an apolitical mental case, it's just not true.

I'm not certain the extent that my views coincide with those of McVeigh but I would not try to characterize him as apolitical and "just a nut" because some of his and my views may.

Matt L 09-18-2010 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Billybob (Post 2546796)
You can denounce him as he is a left wing mental case not as you want him to be an apolitical mental case, it's just not true.

I'm not certain the extent that my views coincide with those of McVeigh but I would not try to characterize him as apolitical and "just a nut" because some of his and my views may.

I do believe that I asked if he was really politically motivated, and you answered. But I'm still not sure that he was.

I do characterize McVeigh as a nut. Some of his political views do match yours. If this nutcase has views that match mine, and that fact matters, so does the fact that McVeigh's views match yours. It's a two-way street.

I don't care what political views this nutcase espouses. It doesn't matter any more than it matters what McVeigh believed.

Unless, of course, you think that all leftists are evil. Perhaps you do. I'm sorry that I can't share your hate.

Billybob 09-18-2010 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt L (Post 2546812)
I do believe that I asked if he was really politically motivated, and you answered. But I'm still not sure that he was.

No in fact I don't think you did ask that, the closest you got was asking if he was a leftist. I think that has been answered.

Matt L 09-18-2010 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Billybob (Post 2546822)
No in fact I don't think you did ask that, the closest you got was asking if he was a leftist. I think that has been answered.

Hmm... You are correct, sir.

Well, he's a leftist. He's a nut. There are leftists who are not nuts. In America, that's most of them.


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