More hate inspired violence? On the Left!
 

This is what happens when you teach and preach hate of capitalism, hate of extractive economic models, hate of government, hate of religion, hate of intolerance, hate of those one disagrees with, sooner or later someone takes matters into their own hands and this is what can happen.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MISSOURI_COLLEGE_STABBING?SITE=OREUG&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Seems like those on the left are increasingly desparate as the reality of their political notions are exposed and subsequently rejected by the body politic.

So if you see someone on the left acting out of their ordinary (emphasis on "their" ordinary, not the "normal" type ordinary) use all caution, don't get to close, call 911 and let the profesionals handle it, and be safe out there people.

P.S., by all accounts Tea Party gatherings have proven to be very safe places!

I don't see how this relates to him being a leftist. Does the article say something about this that I missed? Does it even say that he's left of center?

Jay Nixon is a Democrat, if you didn't know.

i do believe the "stabber" is a few bricks shy of a load. perhaps some here identify with him?

"Brezik's father said his son has a long history of mental illness that has not been adequately treated."

Whether he was Left or Right, is irrelevant.

Perhaps he must be a leftist because he is a criminal. Because we all know that there are no moral, right-wing Christians in prison.

perhaps the o.p. is making a joke? wasn't aware of the "stabbing" vein ( ouch) of humor.

For it to be a joke, he would have to disbelieve his premise.

That is funny!!

You don't know of his politics because the AP doesn't even hint at them!

Check out Casey Brezik's Facebook page! Then perhaps you'll have a better understanding why the story of the attempted assassination of a sitting Governor isn't very palatable to the Probama media! This guy is a poster boy for Obamunist Political Doctrine!

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/09/leftist_assassination_attempt.html

So "American Thinker" thinks he's a leftist. They WANT to interpret his sayings that way. Perhaps he's a Muslim (but of course, that's just as bad, right?).

But if you want me to read any part of his Facebook page, you'll have to post it here. I have never, and will never, visit that site.

He would also have to understand his premise.

Sorry, I can't help you there, on that I will agree! Maybe someone else will!

"In his "About Me" box, Brezik lists as his favorite quotation one from progressive poster boy, Che Guevara. He mocks Christianity, denounces Israel, sneers at capitalism, fumes at the "oil mongers," and celebrates his own arrest at the G20 Summit in Toronto this past June."


Jeez, I wonder if this guy drives a Mercedes? He sounds like a typical OD leftist.......

There are a couple Eco-Freako, Hate America Firster Fisters, God Religion Money Greed GW Bush Root of All Evils types who haven't chimed in lately but I don't recall any of them being from that part of the country!

BB,
You forgot the ultimate fringe leftist wacko-term; "fruitcakes.":D

I gotta say the first report said nothing about his politics and the OP did not either- so his claim of a leftie and violence seemed empty. Now his FB page and posts from it show him to be far left. Why some will not look at that is akin to sticking your head in the sand. He is a wacko- a leftie wacko. There are wacko's of all kinds, but this guy is a leftie wacko.

I take it that BillyBob didn't want to look at his FB page for the same reason that I didn't. Random FB pages are full of trash. I don't need that.

Yes, he's a far-left wacko. Of course they exist. You will notice that I didn't accuse BillyBob of being wrong (well, I did hint at it in the "joke" comment). Rather, I asked why he was being called a leftist.

There are moderate leftists, who do not think that violent overthrow of the government is a good idea. There are a lot of people on the right who feel the same way.

But why Jay Nixon? I just don't get it.

Yes, there are crazies of all political leanings; what was the point of this thread?

To troll. Next question?

You do such a good job of that... are you threatened?

Feel free to complain to the moderator.

Just be sure that he's not one of those wacky liberal leftist types...

That certainly does not address the question, but I hope everyone feels free to do so.

Oh Kirk, you never disappoint!

That flies about as well as claiming that those fools who were trying to assassinate Obama back in '08 were adherents of McCain or Republicans in general. In both cases, the guilty parties are whacked, do not know what they think or why.

Trivial note, did you notice how different the guy looks in the two links? Almost doesn't look like the same person. The guy looks pretty whacked, that's my layman's opinion anyway.

http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/v...ey20Brezik.jpg

http://media.trb.com/media/photo/201...0-14191435.jpg

I'm not the brightest bulb here, but are most of the "leftest" LWNG left handed? :confused::D

Here are links to the two stories:

Obama “attempt” in 2008:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/news/ap/politics/2008/Oct/27/feds_disrupt_alleged_plot_targeting_obama.html

And the Nixon attempt:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MISSOURI_COLLEGE_STABBING?SITE=OREUG&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Now can you honestly state that the AP gave equal treatment to the political views and inspirations of the attackers in these two reports.

Now remember Brezik’s politics didn’t have to be gleaned from investigators, they are posted for any Facebook member to see. Do you think the AP just never bothered to Google the guys name as they did their reporting? The AP had no idea of Brezik’s politics? To come to that conclusion would “really require a willing suspension of disbelief” to quote Hillary Clinton!

So lessee, the big difference between the two is that they didn't start off with:

"Casey Brezik, leftist fanatic scumbag, today . . . "

There are untold 10s of thousands of lard core leftists in the last 100 years that are in no way in my camp. Stalin's operatives and Mao's cultural revolution warriors, for starters. I don't get this business that the fact that some angry, lost soul idolizes Che (whoa, that's never happened before) is some reflection on everyone to the left of Olympia Snowe. I'm supposed to hold my head in shame at what this guy, my presumed soul brother, has said and done?

I know this might hurt but it’s really not about what you think or feel about this guy doing what he did or even why he did it!. The issue is the difference between the AP's reporting of rightwing crazies verses left wing crazies. When a rightwing crazy commits a crime the AP and virtually all of the Probama media are quick to heap on any inference that right of center ideology is an instigator triggering individuals to commit politically motivate crimes. When left wing crazies commit crimes the AP and the Probama media do everything within their power to mitigate any connection between left wing ideology and instigation triggering those individuals to commit crimes.

In this case the AP makes virtually no mention of the politics of Brezik despite his public self identification with virtually every left wing cause. The Probama media at large has done virtually no reporting on the story itself because if it did the crazy's politics would come out.

Is it imaginable that a rightwing crazy could do what this guy did and not have every major media outlet reporting it in full detail and with follow-up discussions with commentary as to the how and why's of every aspect. Ed Shultz and Keith Blobermann would be railing about how rightwing hate media was to blame for inciting the unbalanced among us!

Let's say that his left-wing politics drove him to kill, and not his craziness.

Why target a Democratic Governor?

uh, he wanted to blame it on the right? :D except, of course, that his facebook page would give the game away.

let's face it, the perpetrator is just a nut.

and the o.p. is grasping at straws on this one. too much partisan politics. as if the dems and repubs aren't the same thing anyway.

Brezik perhaps viewed the Democrat Governor as too far right for him perhaps, or not far left enough.

Brezik was not apolitical, when one examines his views he made public and your own views expressed on this forum it's no suprise you seek to disassociate him from them claiming "he was just a nut" as if his political views did not exist!

Maybe so. He was the AG, so he is a law-and-order guy. And although I no longer live in MO, it does seem to me that he's trying to work with the Republican legislature.

I must note that you should have left the word "or" out of your reply.

And of course, real nut cases come in all flavors. There are plenty of extreme examples from any end of the spectrum. I don't know if there are so many in the middle, but perhaps I have just not noticed.

McVeigh had strong political views too. I don't associate his actions with you, and I don't need to resign mine because of this nutcase.

my views? you obviously know nothing of my views. just because one criticizes the neocons, teapartiers, etc., does not automatically make one a democrat. life is a bit more complex. (a concept, i might add, that's seems to be quite foreign to you. but keep assuming - it's very amusing.)

Well no one to my knowledge said you did or should did they? Has anyone accused you of doing so or suggested that you need to?

Did someone automaticlly acuse you of being a Democrat? Or even casually acuse you!

You told tonkovich that he was trying to disassociate himself from this guy, as if his actions were not political. I call BS on that.

Oh yea, I'm not a Democrat either, but I will admit to voting for 10 times as many Democrats as Republicans. Libertarians figure in the mix too, but frankly, I can't recall if I've voted Libertarian more or less than Democratic, at least for President.

I've never voted Republican for President.

has dementia, senility or alzheimers kicked in?

anyway, as i said earlier, you are amusing.

The causes he identifies with are pretty general and not too current. He's more of an anti-social than a political animal. Perhaps identifying him as a leftist accolade of Che would have been appropriate.

Flailing.

This is what was said:

Tonkovich is trying to divorce the political views of Brezik from him (Brezik) claiming Brezik was “just a nut” as if he (Brezik) was apolitical. Tonkovich in my view is trying to depoliticize Brezik in part because the political views expressed by Brezik are similar to views expressed on this forum by tonkovich. Tonkovich in my view can’t disassociate his own views from the similar views of Brezik so he is left no alternative but to attempt to separate Brezik from his politic positions. Tonkovich in my view would prefer that Brezik be orphaned from the similar views held by toncovich.

You then made a statement:

To which I responded to you:

And now your complaint is:

I’m not sure I understand the basis of your complaint? Tonkovich is a big boy who is able to express himself, don’t you think?

This is what Matt said:

And this was my response to it:

We'll all be waiting for you to explain the "flailing" as you perceive it!

I was replying to your response to someone else. That should make it apparent that I was not accusing you of saying that I needed to denounce the guy. But you made it clear that anyone left of you shouldn't be able to denounce him as a nutcase, because we are him.

In the same way, you are McVeigh.

In reality, I hope, that way is not at all.

divorce myself? i don't recall marrying the man.

again, you really don't know what i think. "che"? he was a silly dreamer who also enjoyed executing people. why would i be interested in him? (besides, the whole "che" thing was big maybe ten, fifteen, twenty? years ago. which again proves that the "stabber" was more than a little "out of touch". and, seemingly, so are you? what's next, linking "raves" and ecstasy to democrats, socialists and satanic ritual murder? )

You can denounce him as he is a left wing mental case not as you want him to be an apolitical mental case, it's just not true.

I'm not certain the extent that my views coincide with those of McVeigh but I would not try to characterize him as apolitical and "just a nut" because some of his and my views may.

I do believe that I asked if he was really politically motivated, and you answered. But I'm still not sure that he was.

I do characterize McVeigh as a nut. Some of his political views do match yours. If this nutcase has views that match mine, and that fact matters, so does the fact that McVeigh's views match yours. It's a two-way street.

I don't care what political views this nutcase espouses. It doesn't matter any more than it matters what McVeigh believed.

Unless, of course, you think that all leftists are evil. Perhaps you do. I'm sorry that I can't share your hate.

No in fact I don't think you did ask that, the closest you got was asking if he was a leftist. I think that has been answered.