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pj67coll 09-23-2010 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by chilcutt (Post 2550337)
If you did not serve with the United States armed forces-you are thinking like the armed forces you did serve with. Whole differant ball game.

I didn't "serve". You only "serve" if you have a choice in the matter. And it doesn't matter what military is involved. If you are in a war you need to be of a mindset to win or you need to not be involved in the first place.

- Peter.

chilcutt 09-23-2010 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pj67coll (Post 2550377)
I didn't "serve". You only "serve" if you have a choice in the matter. And it doesn't matter what military is involved. If you are in a war you need to be of a mindset to win or you need to not be involved in the first place.

- Peter.

Ok..would you mind telling us where you were conscipted?..Branch, unit, rank, combat experiance, what your duty/mission was, how long did this conscription last..etc..

Billybob 09-23-2010 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by chilcutt (Post 2550381)
Ok..would you mind telling us where you were conscipted?..Branch, unit, rank, combat experiance, what your duty/mission was, how long did this conscription last..etc..

Why don't you start with sharing the details of your own service? So we can all properly qualify and quantify your capacity to understand what the information provided to you means!

chilcutt 09-23-2010 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Billybob (Post 2550393)
Why don't you start with sharing the details of your own service? So we can all properly qualify and quantify your capacity to understand what the information provided to you means!

Your recent alledged snitching me out to interpol shuold reach the proper channels Mr. Bill.
At which time you will understand my present Security Clearance level.
Please let us know when the State Department contacts you.
Note: It will not be for the reasons that you initiated the search about me.
Good Luck Mr. Bill.
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Mr Coll, will you answer my question please.

Billybob 09-23-2010 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chilcutt (Post 2550640)
Your recent alledged snitching me out to interpol shuold reach the proper channels Mr. Bill.
At which time you will understand my present Security Clearance level.
Please let us know when the State Department contacts you.
Note: It will not be for the reasons that you initiated the search about me.
Good Luck Mr. Bill.
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Mr Coll, will you answer my question please.

Ooooo! A SERPM are you? I'm impressed!

chilcutt 09-24-2010 03:46 AM

Gov. Jesse Ventura..(Quote)
 
"Do you ever think that maybe our country needs a Truth Commision, to understand the crimes that were committed 'in our name' over the recent decades?.
Maybee we need to put ourselves in the position of the little Vietnamese farmer who did nothing but raise his rice.
They handed him an AK-47 and in came the United States, and we dropped more armaments on Vietnam than in all WW-2.
When push came to shove,he outlasted us. Why?. Becuase he had the resolve for freedom. That Vietnamese farmer wanted self govern, not be a part of colonialism. Maybe we in the United States, should start veiwing our Government as colonialist.
Now the rest of us, in our own country, are becoming the colony.'un-quote'







Chilcutt~

75Sv1 09-24-2010 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by chilcutt (Post 2550871)
"Do you ever think that maybe our country needs a Truth Commision, to understand the crimes that were committed 'in our name' over the recent decades?.
Maybee we need to put ourselves in the position of the little Vietnamese farmer who did nothing but raise his rice.
They handed him an AK-47 and in came the United States, and we dropped more armaments on Vietnam than in all WW-2.
When push came to shove,he outlasted us. Why?. Becuase he had the resolve for freedom. That Vietnamese farmer wanted self govern, not be a part of colonialism. Maybe we in the United States, should start veiwing our Government as colonialist.
Now the rest of us, in our own country, are becoming the colony.'un-quote'







Chilcutt~

Quoteing WWF Super Star Jesse the Body Venturea? Oh, you've hit a new low. So how much weapontry did China and Russia supply the the NVA? Please supply facts. Also, the SVA was still fighting till they ran out of bullets. One of my co-workers was there, so his words. The US stopped supplies according to the peace agreement. The NVA broke that agreement. I also read in Parade magazine many years ago, one of the oposition said' We thought it was our voice, but it was the communist voice' or something like that. Communism took over Russia with ony 5% being communist. I'd say the same for China. Cuba, Castro rolled out the freedom banner till they kicked out Bastilla. Then the attitude changed quickly.
Tom

pj67coll 09-24-2010 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by chilcutt (Post 2550871)
"Do you ever think that maybe our country needs a Truth Commision, to understand the crimes that were committed 'in our name' over the recent decades?.

No.

- Peter.

cmbdiesel 09-24-2010 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 75Sv1 (Post 2550918)
So how much weapontry did China and Russia supply the the NVA?

Please supply facts.


Completely immaterial. One cannot base the morality or ethicality of their actions on the actions of another. Seems like a childish concept, but one that is sorely lacking. If it is wrong, it is wrong. Does not matter what Soviet Russia or little Johnny down the street did, if your actions are wrong, they are wrong regardless of what they did. If they jumped of a bridge....

You too please.

cmbdiesel 09-24-2010 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by chilcutt (Post 2550871)
"Do you ever think that maybe our country needs a Truth Commision, to understand the crimes that were committed 'in our name' over the recent decades?.

Yes.

Might open a few people's eyes to the rationalizations used by the various groups were are in conflict with. Instead of the knee jerk reaction that all Muslims are terrorists, there could be some realization that we are in some way complicit in forming the mentality that helps create terrorists in the first place. Or, maybe you all think that these folks just invented their hatred for America one day because they were bored....

pj67coll 09-24-2010 11:51 AM

The Wests Illusion
 
http://www.city-journal.org/2010/eon0923bt.html

- Peter.

chilcutt 09-24-2010 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 75Sv1 (Post 2550918)
Quoteing WWF Super Star Jesse the Body Venturea? Oh, you've hit a new low. So how much weapontry did China and Russia supply the the NVA? Please supply facts. Also, the SVA was still fighting till they ran out of bullets. One of my co-workers was there, so his words. The US stopped supplies according to the peace agreement. The NVA broke that agreement. I also read in Parade magazine many years ago, one of the oposition said' We thought it was our voice, but it was the communist voice' or something like that. Communism took over Russia with ony 5% being communist. I'd say the same for China. Cuba, Castro rolled out the freedom banner till they kicked out Bastilla. Then the attitude changed quickly.
Tom

I believe you have missed the point.

cmbdiesel 09-24-2010 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pj67coll (Post 2551132)

Fairly decent article, right up to the last couple paragraphs, wherein the author politicizes his discussion into a What-the-current-administration-is-doing-wrong rant. Too bad. The follies that he is attributing to Obama, are the same fallacies that befell W, and pretty much every president we've had in the last few decades. Furthermore, he continues to propagate a mis-informed opinion that Islam is the driving force behind these terrorists. It is not, it is their smokescreen, their shield. From behind this facade they lob stones at the west and pin all attempts at retaliation on the West's hatred of Islam. This is how they succeed in drawing new recruits. We must not fall prey to believing the other sides propaganda, namely that they are Muslim, and represent Islam.

pj67coll 09-24-2010 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 2551215)
Fairly decent article, right up to the last couple paragraphs, wherein the author politicizes his discussion into a What-the-current-administration-is-doing-wrong rant. Too bad. The follies that he is attributing to Obama, are the same fallacies that befell W, and pretty much every president we've had in the last few decades. Furthermore, he continues to propagate a mis-informed opinion that Islam is the driving force behind these terrorists. It is not, it is their smokescreen, their shield. From behind this facade they lob stones at the west and pin all attempts at retaliation on the West's hatred of Islam. This is how they succeed in drawing new recruits. We must not fall prey to believing the other sides propaganda, namely that they are Muslim, and represent Islam.

Well, at least you read the article. Of course I disagree. I think you attitude is exactly the mistaken western one that he highlights as being the source of illusory basis of our foreign policy. Youre right that W and the previous bunch were as culpable of this as O. It's a western thing in general. A complete inability of the west to understand that others might not think as we do.

- Peter.

Txjake 09-24-2010 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chilcutt (Post 2550871)
"Do you ever think that maybe our country needs a Truth Commision, to understand the crimes that were committed 'in our name' over the recent decades?.
Maybee we need to put ourselves in the position of the little Vietnamese farmer who did nothing but raise his rice.
They handed him an AK-47 and in came the United States, and we dropped more armaments on Vietnam than in all WW-2.
When push came to shove,he outlasted us. Why?. Becuase he had the resolve for freedom. That Vietnamese farmer wanted self govern, not be a part of colonialism. Maybe we in the United States, should start veiwing our Government as colonialist.
Now the rest of us, in our own country, are becoming the colony.'un-quote'





Chilcutt~

oh, you mean Jesse Ventura, the liar about being a US Navy Seal? Why should we give him any credence?



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