Valid Point
 

"The last time this country combined government and religion people got burned at the stake".

Where and who does the quote come from? What country is being referred to?

As the last time in this country, governmental burnings of people at the stake would have occurred most likely by aboriginal people aka "Indians" where burning alive was a not unusual public spectacle, as where many other tortures such a skinning alive, scalping alive, disembowelment alive, etc. where applied to vanquished foes. Aboriginal culture celebrated both the infliction of cruelty and equally the ability to resist the effects of imposed cruelty.

Samuel de Champlain "the father of New France" detailed many such practices as he witnessed them as he fought along side Canadian Algonquin and Huron Indians against their foes to their south the Iroquois Confederacy tribes like the Oneida and Seneca, after arriving in Canada in 1603.

The quote can apply to any country or time. The American Puritans were drowning and burning 'witches' in the 1600's.

The American Puritans were not "government".
The American Puritans, themselves put an end to the witch hunts; no government protection was involved.

When the Puritans arrived I don't believe that there was much of an official American government.

So it's really not a quote, as there is no evidence it was actually spoken and attributable to any person. Or perhaps you'd rather not reveal the source of the quote. After doing a Google search of the phrase it seems to be making the rounds of many of the looney left websites at this time, is that where you got it?

And you should feel free to post any evidence that any person was ever burned as a "witch" by American Puritans in America, because according to the historical record, it never happened. Where did you learn this?

With regard to the Salem Witch episode 19 people, about half of those found guilty of the capital felony of witchcraft where hanged.

One accused person was crushed by stones as a punishment known as "peine forte et dure" because he refused to enter a plea when he came to trial; it took two days to kill the 80 year old farmer Giles Corey.

Prior to 1692 about 12 people where executed after being found guilty, most if not all by hanging.

Did anyone ever think that perhaps the quote is not to be takes literally but figuratively? Nahhh why do that right?

If it's written somewhere, even if on an MB forum, then it must have some truth to it. I nominate this thread "Worthless Thread of the Day". What a waste of space.

You really don't know what you're talking about on this subject, there was established government, not unexpectedly community leaders where people of religious standing where often in official office concurrently. There is a vast historical record of the times and in particular the Salem episode, every person was given a trial that was fair according to the rule of law in that day. The same procedures, processes and standards that any murderer or thief would have had. The laws where different and took into account the understandings and priorities of the day and had been implemented by the population. While not as equitable a democracy as today the population at large assembled, debated, conferred, and implemented laws.

By virtue of its corporate charter the Massachusetts Bay Colony had a fairly rigid governmental structure headed by a governor, with county and municipal subdivisions. With the exception of Acadian France in Louisiana most of the US eventually followed this model

It's hyperbole, plain a simple! Just typical boilerplate liberal polemic, factually inaccurate as is to be expected but, portrayed as a indisputable “truth”!

Perhaps in your little world. When was the last time the combination of religion and government resulted in a good thing? People get 'burned' by religion all the time.

They also mixed religion and politics. Freedom of religion was not practiced in the MBC nor was it a tenet of their beliefs. Those who didn't subscribe to Puritan beliefs were not allowed to settle there. The witchcraft persecutions were direct results of Puritan practices. Perhaps the quote should be rephrased to "The last time religion and politics were mixed in the U.S., people got crushed by giant rocks and hung."
Without regard to who did or didn't say it, it makes a valid point. Religion has no official place in the government of the United States.

Jim!!! I've got campaign lawn signs from candidates that didn't win last month!!!

Let's get together!!!!!!


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BTW: What does "baked witch" smell like? Overdone chicken? :confused:




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It smells like VICTORY !!!!

I * LOVE * the smell of it in the morning !!