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Old 12-14-2010, 04:17 PM
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Drought in the Amazon

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/gallery/2010/oct/26/amazon-drought-brazil

http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100720/full/466423a.html

A once-in-a-century drought struck much of the Amazon rainforest in 2005, reducing rainfall by 60–75% in some areas — and giving scientists a window on to a future coloured by climate change.

The drought foreshadowed the Amazon drying that many climate modellers expect to see in a warmer world. But five years on, a spate of research, including 13 papers published on 20 July in a special issue of the journal New Phytologist , shows that researchers are still grappling with the impact of drought and what it could reveal about the fate of the world's largest tropical forest, a major carbon storehouse.


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http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/gallery/2010/oct/26/amazon-drought-brazil

http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100720/full/466423a.html

A once-in-a-century drought struck much of the Amazon rainforest in 2005, reducing rainfall by 60–75% in some areas — and giving scientists a window on to a future coloured by climate change.

The drought foreshadowed the Amazon drying that many climate modellers expect to see in a warmer world. But five years on, a spate of research, including 13 papers published on 20 July in a special issue of the journal New Phytologist , shows that researchers are still grappling with the impact of drought and what it could reveal about the fate of the world's largest tropical forest, a major carbon storehouse.
Being that in the article it is actually referred to as "A once-in-a-century drought" shouldn't we be expecting such an occurrence fairly often in geological/climatological terms? When was the last climatological fluctuation the resulted in similar "once-in-a-century drought" conditions, perhaps this most recent instance is long overdue, no?

Isn't this just "Chicken Little" screaming "this is how it will be if the sky does fall"? The fact that it is occurring in no way supports MMGW because by its very definition it's a fairly regular "a once-in-a-century" event!

The first link is a series of pictures how compelling, almost like the fake published in "Science", poor polar bear on the little ice flow so loved by the tree hugger/human haters.

Reading the article illuminates that not only are conditions such as this drought a manifestation of normal climatological fluctuation but the actual effects on the environment are of uncertain overall impact.

Hasn't the Nobel Prize winning "Himalayan Glaciers Will Vanish by 2035" hoax/fraud/error/mistake taught the MMGW hysterics anything?

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Hasn't the glacier on top of kilimanjaro-or the ones in Glacier nat park almost totaly gone now taught the deniers anything yet?
Im outa here-I gotta go hug a tree.
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Being that in the article it is actually referred to as "A once-in-a-century drought" shouldn't we be expecting such an occurrence fairly often in geological/climatological terms? When was the last climatological fluctuation the resulted in similar "once-in-a-century drought" conditions, perhaps this most recent instance is long overdue, no?

Isn't this just "Chicken Little" screaming "this is how it will be if the sky does fall"? The fact that it is occurring in no way supports MMGW because by its very definition it's a fairly regular "a once-in-a-century" event!

The first link is a series of pictures how compelling, almost like the fake published in "Science", poor polar bear on the little ice flow so loved by the tree hugger/human haters.

Reading the article illuminates that not only are conditions such as this drought a manifestation of normal climatological fluctuation but the actual effects on the environment are of uncertain overall impact.

Hasn't the Nobel Prize winning "Himalayan Glaciers Will Vanish by 2035" hoax/fraud/error/mistake taught the MMGW hysterics anything?

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Knock me over with a feather. I had no idea anyone would have this take on it.

So far, it looks like/can be dismissed as normal fluctuation to some extent. But when you look at the FACT that vast portions of the Amazon have had the forest cover removed, and the knowledge we have about micro-climates, this episode is not so easy for me to dismiss.

Tree hugger/human haters?

Good God. The flip side of the chicken little syndrome. It may surprise you to learn that the natural world provides sustenance to humans at a very low cost, and has for some time now.
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Hasn't the glacier on top of kilimanjaro-or the ones in Glacier nat park almost totally gone now taught the deniers anything yet?
Im outa here-I gotta go hug a tree.
Hugging a big ponderosa pine is a neat experience. Has a very faint aroma reminiscent of vanilla. It's a big powerful life form - one that has been of much use to human-kind.

BTW, don't you know that kilimanjaro has lost it's glacier cover many times? Just a regular occurrence.
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Hugging a big ponderosa pine is a neat experience. Has a very faint aroma reminiscent of vanilla. It's a big powerful life form - one that has been of much use to human-kind.

BTW, don't you know that kilimanjaro has lost it's glacier cover many times? Just a regular occurrence.
Or the burnt smell of sequoia forest/burnt tree bark, nothing else like it. I like going to the trail of a hundred giants , Up the hill from California hot springs and up the road from lake Isabella/Kern river.
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I am glad that I will be dead and gone way before all the things that man has done to the earth, and the enviroment finally kill's the third stone from the sun.
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Well I do not believe in mankind caused global warming, despite the disgusting things mankind has done to this beautiful planet.

The earth has gone through cycles for various reasons over the millineum, long before mankind even existed.
Consider that where I sit less than 15,000 years ago was covered in a mile or more of solid ice.
Consider that every so many thousand (30 as I recall) vast areas of the sahara have regularly become lush grasslands.
Now we haven't made things any better and may have slightly accelerated the process, but just think of the mass of the earth versus the mass of mankind and all our destructive things.
Although the fact that the dam in China has or will alter the earth's rotation is a scary/interesting thought.


NOW within reason I do everything I can, I believe in energy efficiency, am almost anal about recycling (ok drop the almost), compositing, and love keeping stuff out of the waste stream by repair and reuse.

I'm not perfect, we love our fireplace (although most of the wood is storm damage or tree trimming), my old mower probably pollutes (but I manage my lawn ecologically for the most part) .
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I can respect that. But you are just 1 person doing what they can. Big business on the other hand, well...
So, whats going on with space exploration-as the next alternative to moving herds of humans off the earth?
The last I heard- the propulsion systems required to get us there, are almost in place. trouble is-a human body would need to be frozen, in order to suspend it long enough to travel these long distances in space-and if you freeze a human body, the red blood corpuscles will explode.
Any truth to that?
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if you freeze a human body, the red blood corpuscles will explode.
Any truth to that?
Hell no. I asked Elvis about it and he said only if you go all Ted Williams!

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