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Skid Row Joe · #1 01-21-2011, 03:50 AM

Libeling the Right: The Key to the Left's Success

Tuesday, January 18, 2011

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Last week, following the murder of six people and the attempted murder of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Arizona, the American people were given a vivid display of the single most important tactic of the left: libeling opponents.

Most Americans have been naively and blissfully unaware of this aspect of the left's arsenal against the right. But now, just as more Americans than ever before understand the left's limitless appetite for political power in an ever-expanding state, more Americans than ever before understand that a key to the left's success is defaming the right.

I do not recall any major American daily attacking another major American daily the way the Wall Street Journal attacked The New York Times last week under the heading "The New York Times has crossed a moral line." I do not recall Pulitzer-Prize winning Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer ever expressing contempt toward a colleague the way he did against The New York Times columnist Paul Krugman last week. Krauthammer ended his Washington Post column "Massacre, then libel" with this sentence: "The origins of Loughner's delusions are clear: mental illness. What are the origins of Krugman's?"

People are awakening to the seminal fact of left-wing success: The only way the left can succeed in America is by libeling the right. Only 20 percent of Americans label themselves liberal, let alone left. How, then, do Leftists get elected? And why don't more Americans call themselves conservative when, in fact, so many share conservatives' values?
The answer to both questions is that through its dominance of the news media, entertainment media and educational institutions, the left has been able to successfully demonize the right for at least half a century.
The left rarely convinces Americans to adopt its views. What it does is create a fear of the right that influences many Americans to align themselves with the left.

For example, most Americans want to retain the man-woman definition of marriage. Even most voters in liberal Californians want to. The left has not been able to convince even Californians to redefine marriage to include members of the same sex. So what the left did was to declare as "haters" all those who wanted California to retain the definition of marriage as between a man and a woman. Proposition 8 became "Prop. Hate."

But the Left's modus operandi was never as apparent as it was this past week when it took a tragic mass killing of innocents by a violent mentally ill individual and transformed it -- within hours -- into an attack on the decency of the Right: specifically Sarah Palin, the tea party, Fox News and talk radio.

The same left, led by The New York Times, that warned against making any quick assumptions that Islam had played any role in Maj. Nidal Hasan's murder of 13 people and wounding of 30 others at Fort Hood, immediately declared that the Arizona murders were largely a result of a "climate of hate" induced by Palin and other conservatives.

It wasn't true. They knew it wasn't true. And, yes, it was a libel.

But when you control all the major news media, Hollywood, much of the rest of the culture and most of the high schools and colleges, how are most people one supposed to realize that it is not a valid description of the right?

What makes last week different is this: The left, for the first time, does not have the same monopoly over mass information, and the Republican Party is no longer emasculated. There is talk radio, there is the Internet, there is Fox News and there is a vigorous conservative Republican Party. So, when the left unleashed its libel against the right, claiming that it was responsible for a "climate of hate" that produced Jared Loughner, to its shock, America did not lie down and believe it. Many millions did, as usual. But for those with eyes to see, it was a false accusation, and for many, for the first time, it provided a clear view into how the left operates.

As it becomes ever more obvious that Loughner's crimes had nothing -- absolutely nothing -- to do with conservatives, the left will do three things: change the subject by criticizing Palin's use of the term "blood libel," (a term whose use by Palin was honorably defended by Professor Alan Dershowitz, a prominent Jewish liberal); deny it ever really blamed the right for the Loughner's crimes (hoping, with good reason, that Americans have a short memory); and continue to blame the right for creating the "climate of hate" that the left itself has created.

That is why it is important for conservatives and honorable liberals not to allow Americans to forget what the left did last week. It is the key to giving conservatives the good name they deserve. And it is the key to giving the left the name it deserves.

Dennis Prager

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RichC · #2 01-21-2011, 04:29 AM

So i guess the new plan for conservatives is to try and get some sympathy by playing the victim ??

Ms Palin is such a good role model for this kind of behavior.

Who would have known that the victims in the Arizona shooting were not the people that got shot and killed, but the conservatives.

(M. Jagger/K. Richards)

Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man's soul and faith

And I was 'round when Jesus Christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name

layback40 · #3 01-21-2011, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RichC

So i guess the new plan for conservatives is to try and get some sympathy by playing the victim ??

Ms Palin is such a good role model for this kind of behavior.

Who would have known that the victims in the Arizona shooting were not the people that got shot and killed, but the conservatives.

(M. Jagger/K. Richards)

Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man's soul and faith

And I was 'round when Jesus Christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name

Since when does any 1/2 intelligent person base serious comment about any worthwhile topic on the rantings of a couple of self confessed drug F##KED individuals.
Both Jagger & Richards have admitted that most of their lyrics were written while they were stoned. I would think that I would have to be in a similar state of mind before I would be quoting such stuff as a credible argument.

Just because some one is popular, it doesnt mean they have knowledge of a topic.

We have a federal politician here in Australia, an ex rock singer, he is very popular because his groups music contained much social comment. He entered politics with much fanfare, everything he has been in charge of has been a total disaster. People have lost their life because of his incompetence & lack of leadership. He has been demoted & demoted within the government ranks.

It takes more that a few catchy lyrics to solve a nations problems.

RichC · #4 01-21-2011, 07:43 AM

Police Seize ‘Large Amount’ Of Weapons From Blogger Who Praised Gifffords Shooting: ‘1 Down And 534 To Go’

Police in Arlington, MA this week seized a “large amount” of weapons and ammunition from local businessman Travis Corcoran after he wrote a blog post threatening U.S. lawmakers in the wake of the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ). In a post on his blog (which has since been removed) titled “1 down and 534 to go” — 1 referring to Giffords and 534 referring to the rest of the House of Representatives and the Senate — Corcoran applauded the shooting of Giffords and justified the assassination of lawmakers because he argued the federal government has grown far beyond its constitutional limits. “It is absolutely, absolutely unacceptable to shoot indiscriminately. Target only politicians and their staff and leave regular citizens alone,” he wrote in the post.
“We certainly take this as a credible threat,” Arlington police Captain Robert Bongiorno told reporters, adding that “multiple federal law enforcement agencies” were involved. Authorities also suspended Corcoran’s gun license, though he is currently not facing any charges.
Corcoran calls himself “an anarcho-capitalist” and while his blog has been taken down, based on his Twitter page, he appears to hold views similar to those of many in the anti-government libertarian wing of the conservative movement, like many tea party activists. Anarcho-capitalism is a radical subset of libertarianism, and is often referred to as “libertarian-anarchy.” For example, echoing calls from many on the right, Corcoran tweeted, “it is unconstitutional for the Feds to even run a department of education.”
In a Twitter exchange with reporter Laura Leslie, Corcoran lays out a conventional anti-government philosophy, and explains in depth why he views assassination as legitimate:

“I assert that the US federal gov has grown unconstitutionally large, and the legislature exceeds the powers delegated to it by the people,” Corcoran wrote. “As per the Declaration of Indep, when a gov becomes destructive those ends, it may be abolished,” he continued, “and the most moral approach is that which spares the maximum number of lives. Thus, assasination is a legitimate tool.”
He goes on to further justify assassination as “morally legitimate,” citing “Catholic Just War doctrine” among other theories, and explains, “It’s illegal, yes, but it’s not un-American. America was founded on the idea of shooting gov officials. Lexington Concord!” In another tweet, he writes, “I disagree with murder. …but shooting politicians who pass illegitimate, unconstitutional laws is not murder.” And in case there’s any doubt about his sincery, he writes, “Nope, it’s not a joke. I’m 100% serious.”

He also appears to be a fan of Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), re-tweeting a positive message about him in May: “Lefties: Before you start fringe-baiting Rand Paul, note that he’s better on civil liberties than most Democratic senators. And Obama.” He seems to dislike liberals, writing, “You so-called liberals make me laugh – you’re all for free speech until someone disagrees, then it’s ‘report him!’” He also accuses the Daily Kos of “Stalinism.

Jim B. · #5 01-21-2011, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RichC

Police Seize ‘Large Amount’ Of Weapons From Blogger Who Praised Gifffords Shooting: ‘1 Down And 534 To Go’

Police in Arlington, MA this week seized a “large amount” of weapons and ammunition from local businessman Travis Corcoran after he wrote a blog post threatening U.S. lawmakers in the wake of the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ). In a post on his blog (which has since been removed) titled “1 down and 534 to go” — 1 referring to Giffords and 534 referring to the rest of the House of Representatives and the Senate — Corcoran applauded the shooting of Giffords and justified the assassination of lawmakers because he argued the federal government has grown far beyond its constitutional limits. “It is absolutely, absolutely unacceptable to shoot indiscriminately. Target only politicians and their staff and leave regular citizens alone,” he wrote in the post.
“We certainly take this as a credible threat,” Arlington police Captain Robert Bongiorno told reporters, adding that “multiple federal law enforcement agencies” were involved. Authorities also suspended Corcoran’s gun license, though he is currently not facing any charges.
Corcoran calls himself “an anarcho-capitalist” and while his blog has been taken down, based on his Twitter page, he appears to hold views similar to those of many in the anti-government libertarian wing of the conservative movement, like many tea party activists. Anarcho-capitalism is a radical subset of libertarianism, and is often referred to as “libertarian-anarchy.” For example, echoing calls from many on the right, Corcoran tweeted, “it is unconstitutional for the Feds to even run a department of education.”
In a Twitter exchange with reporter Laura Leslie, Corcoran lays out a conventional anti-government philosophy, and explains in depth why he views assassination as legitimate:

“I assert that the US federal gov has grown unconstitutionally large, and the legislature exceeds the powers delegated to it by the people,” Corcoran wrote. “As per the Declaration of Indep, when a gov becomes destructive those ends, it may be abolished,” he continued, “and the most moral approach is that which spares the maximum number of lives. Thus, assasination is a legitimate tool.”
He goes on to further justify assassination as “morally legitimate,” citing “Catholic Just War doctrine” among other theories, and explains, “It’s illegal, yes, but it’s not un-American. America was founded on the idea of shooting gov officials. Lexington Concord!” In another tweet, he writes, “I disagree with murder. …but shooting politicians who pass illegitimate, unconstitutional laws is not murder.” And in case there’s any doubt about his sincery, he writes, “Nope, it’s not a joke. I’m 100% serious.”

He also appears to be a fan of Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), re-tweeting a positive message about him in May: “Lefties: Before you start fringe-baiting Rand Paul, note that he’s better on civil liberties than most Democratic senators. And Obama.” He seems to dislike liberals, writing, “You so-called liberals make me laugh – you’re all for free speech until someone disagrees, then it’s ‘report him!’” He also accuses the Daily Kos of “Stalinism.

layback40 · #6 01-21-2011, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim B.

You got it in one picture Jim. Probably not only the blogger !! Needs some more fruit in there!! The nuts say it all !!

mgburg · #7 01-21-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim B.

Just what the hell are those red and green things?

It ain't meat and it certainly isn't veggies!!!

RichC · #8 01-21-2011, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by layback40

Since when does any 1/2 intelligent person base serious comment about any worthwhile topic on the rantings of a couple of self confessed drug F##KED individuals.
Both Jagger & Richards have admitted that most of their lyrics were written while they were stoned. I would think that I would have to be in a similar state of mind before I would be quoting such stuff as a credible argument.

Since when does any 1/2 intelligent person not understand the name of the song is
"sympathy for the devil" and is a serious comment about the topic and not rantings of a couple of musical geniuses.

layback40 · #9 01-21-2011, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RichC

Since when does any 1/2 intelligent person not understand the name of the song is
"sympathy for the devil" and is a serious comment about the topic and not rantings of a couple of musical geniuses.

Strange definition "genius"
The 2 of them were on LSD much of the time. Off in the land of the fairies. Psychotic states of mind!!
This typifies much of the logic that I am seeing.
I know the name of the song & unlike those as young as you, I was old enough to be able to understand what was going on when they wrote it.

Ara T. · #10 01-21-2011, 05:39 AM

RichC · #11 01-21-2011, 06:34 AM

Should Bill O'Reilly/Fox News be Blamed for George Tiller's Murder?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ_VvJQ4HVY&feature=player_embedded#!

Jim B. · #12 01-21-2011, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

the decency of the Right: specifically Sarah Palin, the tea party, Fox News and talk radio.

Dennis Prager

"I swear to god, it's like I live in a trailer of common sense, and stare out the window at a tornado of stupidity." >'='<

lutzTD · #13 01-21-2011, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim B.

"I swear to god, it's like I live in a trailer of common sense, and stare out the window at a tornado of stupidity." >'='<

now thats funny, I dont care who you are

sums up the subject pretty well

layback40 · #14 01-21-2011, 07:57 AM

All this melodramatic C##P !!
There are some people in the world with strange habits.
At least he hasnt tried to crash a jet into a building!!
There are probable members on here with arsenals bigger than his.
His twitter & blog is just the internet.

MTI · #15 01-21-2011, 09:59 AM