Originally Posted by strelnik (Post 2667688)

Obviously you have never visited the Detroit school system, where 30% gradumacate high but the rest be stoppin in midle skool :eek::eek::eek:

Originally Posted by JollyRoger (Post 2667707)

"CNS News"? Those guys are a joke. The article contradicts itself, it says the national average is 30% proficiency, so Wisconsin is 2 pts above the national average.

Originally Posted by Txjake (Post 2667714)

They are merely quoting facts from the US Dept of Education......

I think education s/b back to the basics: math science, phys ed, reading writing. sh%tcan all the feelgood stuff, and if a school doesnt perform well, axe the ones at the top first, starting with the state administrators.

Originally Posted by HuskyMan (Post 2667474)

Nothing wrong with requiring students to attend classes year round. The problem is it is still "Public Education" and "Public Education" is a failure, both on paper and in reality. This idea is based on the presumption that if we throw enough money at a bonfire, the fire will extinguish.

A private school based education will ALWAYS trump a public education because of management structure, the education level of the instructors, class size and class priorities.

Originally Posted by Txjake (Post 2667714)

They are merely quoting facts from the US Dept of Education......


wow, I had NO idea so many folks would get their panties in a wad over this. It is, IMHO, not just a problem in WI, but everywhere, between poor administrators, federal mandates & tests, NEA and union issues, etc. teachers are, for some reason, not preparing children for the real world. And that is almost criminal.

I think education s/b back to the basics: math science, phys ed, reading writing. sh%tcan all the feelgood stuff, and if a school doesnt perform well, axe the ones at the top first, starting with the state administrators.

Reduce adminsitrative positions. Stop making coaches principals, unless they have the proficiency and a dedication to education. Schools that consistently do poorly should have their organized sport activities suspended until things pick up.

AMERICA is robbing children of their intellectual growth. Lots of blame to go around, including lazy parents, stupid parents and parents on drugs. schools must overcome that by looking back to earlier times when America was agrarian and continued education beyond the basics was frowned upon by the populace in general. Schools need to take the initiative and stop making excuses why they cant do their mission. If some think it too difficult, then PLEASE find a new career. education is the most important direct act we as a country can do to ensure sucess not only for our children, but also the country.

Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 2667639)

This thread is attracting a lot of very negative action. If you all cannot control your emotions you need to not post.

I infracted one person for changing another person's post which completely changed the meaning of it. I will do that in the future as well.

A lot of name calling and personal attacks as well.

STick to the subject and provide facts please.

I have given warnings and infraction points but some of them have short durations to allow folks to cool off and live again.;)

I'll be closing the thread if it continues to go downhill.

Originally Posted by layback40 (Post 2668341)

This thread is not showing on my list in OD anymore. Just bumping it to see if it appears.

Originally Posted by TylerH860 (Post 2668343)

and pages of posts have vanished . What the hell?

Originally Posted by TylerH860 (Post 2668343)

and pages of posts have vanished . What the hell?