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Old 05-18-2011, 08:00 PM
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Drop the social drama.

If you're bored with your degree field, look at others. Take a few electives in another field. Don't drop out and go military with the starry-eyed hope of butter bars and a smart salutes. If you think the culture of school is silly, you have no clue what the military is like. For most people it's the goofiest thing they ever saw.

Stay in school. Work your butt off. If you're still interested in the military as you near graduation go talk to your ROTC. That's a better path than going mustang.


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Old 05-19-2011, 02:48 AM
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Summer break is here, use the time to think and get your head in the right place.

Problem with school is it won't really do anything for you either way unless you put some effort into it. OTOH you want a degree at least a BS if not a masters depending on your field. Without one your job options are somewhat limited, ie do you want to work retail for $10 an hour the rest of your life?

As far as the armed forces that's a great idea, but you want to enter as an officer since your standard of living will be much higher, and they will train you if your good enough.


Another option for you might be the trades, college might not be the right place for you, I'd still get a degree either way but its something to consider.

As to all the above hiring BS, I am so glad I'm self employed. I have never had anyone ask me about my degree in any of my business dealings. I took 5 years to get my degree because I was working and training myself in the area I wanted to go into while I was doing it. While I was still in school I got my real estate license, sold houses, and got my business going.

Are you coming Friday night?
Thank God it is summer; I've only been back for a week and a half and it has felt like a month! At this rate, it looks like I'll have plenty of time to think all this over.

I don't want to be stuck in that rut, that's why I opted to go the long haul and go for medical school in the first place.

When it comes to the armed forces, it looks like you need a 4 yr degree to even apply for an officer's position... Interestingly I've always wanted to join the French Foreign Legion, if anything at all.

And as far as job selection, As a plastic surgeon I'd probably be in some alum's practice and then when I make my own break I can start my own practice and live life to the fullest.

And I will definitely go Friday!
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Old 05-19-2011, 09:45 AM
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And as far as job selection, As a plastic surgeon I'd probably be in some alum's practice and then when I make my own break I can start my own practice and live life to the fullest.

And I will definitely go Friday!
Not until you pay off those medical school bills
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Old 05-19-2011, 09:59 AM
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It's worth it, school and the hard work.

I've got maybe another 3 semesters left. I hope. But I don't party, drink, do drugs, waste my time. I'm actually working on discrete math homework right now.

I too am frustrated with understanding how those students that get blasted the night before a test and every night manage to still pass a class while I work my butt off to also pass with a high grade.

But one thing is for certain, I know that my life post college will have a drinking or drug problem or a mountain of debt. I'm loan free and I plan on keeping it that way. It may take me a little bit longer to graduate but thats one of my goals is to go loan free. That gets me ahead once I graduate.
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Old 05-19-2011, 10:13 AM
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If you go the medical route your not going to be making a lot of money until you are well into your 30's. It takes a long, long time.
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Old 05-19-2011, 10:38 AM
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I too am frustrated with understanding how those students that get blasted the night before a test and every night manage to still pass a class while I work my butt off to also pass with a high grade.
My roommate my freshman year was a 23 yo Electrical Engineering major in his final year. His study habits consisted of firing off a couple joints and cranking the Grateful Dead while poring over his notes, usually at 2 or 3 in the morning. His GPA for both of those semesters was 4.0. Mine? Not quite so high.
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My roommate my freshman year was a 23 yo Electrical Engineering major in his final year. His study habits consisted of firing off a couple joints and cranking the Grateful Dead while poring over his notes, usually at 2 or 3 in the morning. His GPA for both of those semesters was 4.0. Mine? Not quite so high.
LOL, one of my best friends in college was always just above me in the class rankings, he could party more than most people I've ever met. I had a job and wasted plenty of time too, but I had to conclude that he was just smarter than I was. There were a few others above me, but they really worked for it (probably harder than I did), so they "deserved" it.
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Old 05-19-2011, 10:46 AM
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Not until you pay off those medical school bills
Unfortunately, my father passed nearly 7 years ago now, and in doing so left everything in a trust for paying all of my education off. He was a self made man, coming from Cuba at the age of 9 the day Castro took over.

His drive to succeed definitely transferred on to me, as I've taken every opportunity to come my way since kindergarten, but as of late, my sense of direction has gotten foggy...
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Good for you. Most of the people I know with trusts snort it up their nose.
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Old 05-19-2011, 10:58 AM
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It's worth it, school and the hard work.

I've got maybe another 3 semesters left. I hope. But I don't party, drink, do drugs, waste my time. I'm actually working on discrete math homework right now.

I too am frustrated with understanding how those students that get blasted the night before a test and every night manage to still pass a class while I work my butt off to also pass with a high grade.

But one thing is for certain, I know that my life post college will have a drinking or drug problem or a mountain of debt. I'm loan free and I plan on keeping it that way. It may take me a little bit longer to graduate but thats one of my goals is to go loan free. That gets me ahead once I graduate.
I literally cannot fathom how a girl I was seeing here for a while rushed a sorority, was essentially drunk 20/7 and performed better than me in all the classes we had together. My friend majoring in Physics took his Electronics final still drunk from the night prior and received an A- in the course. I wish I were 'gifted' enough to perform at that level sober!

I was fortunate enough to receive a large enough scholarship that I wouldn't have to take out a loan; I hate borrowing 20 bucks from my parents, let alone $200,000 from Sally Mae!
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Old 05-19-2011, 11:04 AM
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Good for you. Most of the people I know with trusts snort it up their nose.
I respect my father for all that he achieved too much to blow all he earned on spur of the moment, guilty pleasures like that. I try to be a good kid most of the time, I guess.
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couple questions-

I get the feeling from your posts that this branch of medicine is what you want a degree in because it ultimately pays so well, not that you genuinely find in interesting. Is this the case?

On one hand, you should stay in school and finish your degree, but on the other, if you find it difficult to care about courses that might represent something that would be an integral part of the field, then maybe you should consider changing your major, but dropping out and joining the french foreign legion is definitely the worst of both worlds.

Do that after you graduate with a degree in something, now that you've started, because all the previous posters are right, once you decide to leave school for something that sounds like a good idea at the time, its way harder to return later on in life after being buried in responsibilities.

Another question is you seem to have some serious drama with people who are "ex-friends" and such. If you have a continued similar type of problem with a large group of people, than in many cases, the problem can turn out to be yourself, or the way you perceive how these people interact with you. Self analysis and putting yourself in someone elses shoes is very hard for many people, but worth learning how to do. Ask yourself, "what could I have done to make this worse, in addition to, what did they do to make me hate them" often responsibility for a breach like that is shared. Many things are much ado about nothing based on shared stress that reveals everybodys character flaws

I experienced this, it took me a while to learn to discuss with friends more openly about things that were bothering me, vs sitting in smoldering resentment until something blows over something minor.
Some of my best friends now are ones I got into full on fist fights in college with. We now look back on "remember when you threw that TV at me?" or, "remember when you punched me in the nuts in front of my date?" with fondness.
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couple questions-

I get the feeling from your posts that this branch of medicine is what you want a degree in because it ultimately pays so well, not that you genuinely find in interesting. Is this the case?

On one hand, you should stay in school and finish your degree, but on the other, if you find it difficult to care about courses that might represent something that would be an integral part of the field, then maybe you should consider changing your major, but dropping out and joining the french foreign legion is definitely the worst of both worlds.

Do that after you graduate with a degree in something, now that you've started, because all the previous posters are right, once you decide to leave school for something that sounds like a good idea at the time, its way harder to return later on in life after being buried in responsibilities.

Another question is you seem to have some serious drama with people who are "ex-friends" and such. If you have a continued similar type of problem with a large group of people, than in many cases, the problem can turn out to be yourself, or the way you perceive how these people interact with you. Self analysis and putting yourself in someone elses shoes is very hard for many people, but worth learning how to do. Ask yourself, "what could I have done to make this worse, in addition to, what did they do to make me hate them" often responsibility for a breach like that is shared. Many things are much ado about nothing based on shared stress that reveals everybodys character flaws

I experienced this, it took me a while to learn to discuss with friends more openly about things that were bothering me, vs sitting in smoldering resentment until something blows over something minor.
Some of my best friends now are ones I got into full on fist fights in college with. We now look back on "remember when you threw that TV at me?" or, "remember when you punched me in the nuts in front of my date?" with fondness.
I've wanted to be a plastic surgeon since I was 4 years old, as bizarre as that sounds. The reasoning has evolved multiple times since then, with what once started as a way to join the armed forces so they will pay for my medical school education, and a way to serve those who serve my country, since I don't think I have it in me to do the things our service men and women do on a daily basis. I'm not nearly regimented enough to perform at those levels... I've always been 'good' at science, grasping concepts easily and making the knowledge practical, but Ecological Biology really irked me the wrong way. I went to an Ecological and Environmental Bio based High School, and this course was just a redrilling of all I had learned prior to college. The way subject material was presented didn't help either; thank God my lab Professor was the bomb. Mid-high school I wanted to switch to business, but then the economy sort of slumped, and then health care passed, so I figured staying in school until I am 30 and going into an elective field of medicine was a very good plan. Money is an underlying factor, but never my modus operandi; I just want to make enough that my family doesn't have to struggle for anything.

The French Foreign Legion would most definitely be a 'last ditch' effort to set myself straight. a 5 year contract for essentially 200,000 bucks out the door seemed like a good plan should it all hit the fan...

I have taken some of my own incendiary attitude into consideration, as I know I am not considered the 'nicest' or most forgiving person to deal with. It honestly takes at least a year to get past the mean shell I display, and I figure people who stay the long haul to see what is underneath that facade deserve undying loyalty. In conversations over the issues, it always starts with me prompting the discussion, as no one can bare to look me in the eye when they have an issue with something I have done, and the other person just going from a calm attitude to outright yelling in my face about how insensitive I am.
I always keep a cool head and never act in rage; I think it is just my general dry humor and how brutally frank I can be that they don't like. But this time around, I believe my friend seems to have an inferiority complex, as when him and I got into our first argument that wasn't resolved, I went looking for a new social group and outdid the old one. Not to be superficial, but the new people are more 'fun' than the old, and don't judge me for the above negative personality traits... I tried to reason with my old friends multiple times, but they don't seem to want to put the effort in that I have.
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too bad Skid is no longer around. I am sure he could give you some kind of financial or money-making advice.

Have you thought of taking some time off and doing something totally non-related to your current occupation?
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too bad Skid is no longer around. I am sure he could give you some kind of financial or money-making advice.

Have you thought of taking some time off and doing something totally non-related to your current occupation?
As much as I'd love to invest in uh, Berkshire-Hathaway, and drive my Mercedes down my driveway to my motorcoach stable to the helipad I constructed on my other property to take my Gulfstream to shareholder meetings, I don't think I'm quite ready to take on accounting advice

I thought about that today actually, going on academic leave for a year and return with a clear head. I'll be thrown into the class of 2014, and it is kind of an honor to be in the class of 2013 since 13 is the school's lucky number (long story), clarity of mind is much more attractive... I have the summer to work it out, and if I don't get my stuff together by August 1st, I'll probably apply for leave. It's a contrived process that my friend went through, and requires lots of letters of recommendation and the likes to return though, which I don't like one bit.

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