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Chain Saw Help - Oiler mainly
I have an older Poulon chain saw, bought about 96, 17".
This things been a workhorse, over the years we've had a lot of storm damage etc, starts easy, comfortable, more than good enough for the heavy duty home user. OK, using it a lot the last couple of week the oiler doesn't seem to be working. last time I sharpened the chain (this weekend) I cleand everything out as best I could. Found what I thought was the tube from the oil chamber, cleaned it up real good. But I didn't take it apart heavily. Still doesn't seem to be using any oil, I can hear the way the chain sounds and obviously the oil chamber didn't need refilling. Before I really tear this thing apart can anybody give me a brief description how it works and any suggestions how to clean it. Last other than the basics, I keep the chain sharp (I'm on my 2nd or 3rd and have a new spare already), clean it and blow it out good regularly, never store with gas in it etc. But that's all I've done, any recommended maintenance.
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Use all the numbers on your saw and google it..
you may can find a manual which will show and tell you for that saw what you need to do.... Or check with Poulon ... Also, Retrevo.com they keep old instruction manuals ... if someone else has uploaded it.. you can see it ... free.. Greg
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1980 240d , chain elongation, cam marks reference: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?threadid=10414 http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html evap fin cleaning: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=156207&highlight=evaporator A/C thread http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html |
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That help some, thanks. (duh I should have thought of that, I had looked for info a while back and didn't find it, this time got it).
I have the owners manual and found the exploded diagram on ereplacements. exploded diagram helps, but not completely. There is a filter on the oil line I'll have to check it. Next time I have time I'll take apart the oil assembly. Probably should locate a new spark plug, after fifteen years I gues it's time.
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Naw,, just clean it up and put it back in....
LOL I once ran an 032 AV Stihl for 18 years thinking it was electronic ignition.. when it stopped i found out it had points... LOL Ran another two years after those were put in ... Greg
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1980 240d , chain elongation, cam marks reference: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?threadid=10414 http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html evap fin cleaning: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=156207&highlight=evaporator A/C thread http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html |
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Get yourself a pump/squirt oil can & just squirt a little bar oil on when you are using it. Thats what I do with an old Canadian chain saw I use some times.
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Grumpy Old Diesel Owners Club group I no longer question authority, I annoy authority. More effect, less effort.... 1967 230-6 auto parts car. rust bucket. 1980 300D now parts car 800k miles 1984 300D 500k miles 1987 250td 160k miles English import 2001 jeep turbo diesel 130k miles 1998 jeep tdi ~ followed me home. Needs a turbo. 1968 Ford F750 truck. 6-354 diesel conversion. Other toys ~J.D.,Cat & GM ~ mainly earth moving |
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I have had Poulan "Wild Thing"s (model 2375) from that era and IIRC the oiler runs off a worm geared drive that is behind the clutch. I had to replace one after about 5 years of use. They get subjected to a lot of dirt in that area and it's easy to see why they don't last.
My "Wild Thing" really worked hard for me for 10 years and it finally just wouldn't start anymore (compression most likely). I already had about 20 chains ( some guy was selling them for $4) and I bought what I thought was a new model of the same "Wild Thing"- but they switched the chain gauge on me rendering my collection useless. That Poulan didn't last- then I bought a Homelite and that didn't work well. Finally, I found a guy who swapped me two classic 2375 "Wild Things" for my Homelite and a bunch of other junky chainsaws so now I can finally use all my NOS chains
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80 300SD (129k mi) 82 240D stick (193k mi)77 240D auto - stick to be (153k mi) 85 380SL (145k mi) 89 BMW 535i 82 Diesel Rabbit Pickup (374k mi) 91 Jetta IDI Diesel (155k mi) 81 VW Rabbit Convertible Diesel 70 Triumph Spitfire Mk III (63kmi)66 Triumph TR4a IRS (90k mi)67 Ford F-100 (??) |
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Maybe next week I'll tear into it, I've been neglecting a couple of other major projects and some of the regular stuff for a few day. AND my back needs a rest. I want to get away from firewood and the chain saw for a few days, been moving, stacking, cutting for the last 3 days. There's a pic attached, most of that circle is 2 rows deep. You can see all the fresh wood, nice Maple, I figure we are set for years, although as much as we use the fireplace, 3 years max so far. And I'll still get a face of Oak from my firewood guy each year. This was mostly a neighbors tree that came down, landscapers cut it up, I moved it and stacked it. Some was from the remains of a tree of mine I had to take down. Yes I've been very happy with this saw.
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Paging Ben Hogan... Ben Hogan, please pick up the red courtesy phone.
Sure sounds like RS is on to something, though. My Stihls both really collect sawdust back under/near the clutch. It's not been a problem yet, but I can see that if a worm gear in that area drove the oiler, it might foul up easily.
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This isn't exactly the one for my model ( or perhaps yours) but it may give you a hint of the problem:
http://cgi.ebay.com/CHAINSAW-OILER-OIL-PUMP-ASSY-545036801-POULAN-295-/160567246481?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25628dbe91
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80 300SD (129k mi) 82 240D stick (193k mi)77 240D auto - stick to be (153k mi) 85 380SL (145k mi) 89 BMW 535i 82 Diesel Rabbit Pickup (374k mi) 91 Jetta IDI Diesel (155k mi) 81 VW Rabbit Convertible Diesel 70 Triumph Spitfire Mk III (63kmi)66 Triumph TR4a IRS (90k mi)67 Ford F-100 (??) |
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Found the oiler, how does that clutch come off. It says off with an arrow, I assume it unthreads, but how/where do I jam the engine ?? Thanks
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KLK, MCSE 1990 500SL I was always taught to respect my elders. I don't have to respect too many people anymore. |
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Remove the clutch with an impact wrench. It will be LH thread.
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I know it's LH, but there's no bolt to use an impact wrench on , which I don't have anyhow.
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I normally put a dowel of wood down the spark plug hole.
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Grumpy Old Diesel Owners Club group I no longer question authority, I annoy authority. More effect, less effort.... 1967 230-6 auto parts car. rust bucket. 1980 300D now parts car 800k miles 1984 300D 500k miles 1987 250td 160k miles English import 2001 jeep turbo diesel 130k miles 1998 jeep tdi ~ followed me home. Needs a turbo. 1968 Ford F750 truck. 6-354 diesel conversion. Other toys ~J.D.,Cat & GM ~ mainly earth moving |
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Got it, thanks guys.
Gear flute on pump is worn off, PO's me, just one is gone, the rest are OK damaged but OK. Guess I got my 130 bucks worth so far. I'll get a few other parts for good luck, paying shipping anyhow, maybe 15 bucks of parts. S/b like new when I'm done.
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KLK, MCSE 1990 500SL I was always taught to respect my elders. I don't have to respect too many people anymore. |
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Just another Thankyou.
Fired it up today, Oiler works, engine run nice (new plug and clean air filter) Thanks
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KLK, MCSE 1990 500SL I was always taught to respect my elders. I don't have to respect too many people anymore. |
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