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Originally Posted by davidmash (Post 2780142)

Whether it is an insult or not who cares. You cannot fight science. People did not like the idea that the earth was not the center of the universe/solar system. It's not and they just had to get over it. We have a common ancestor with primates. That's just the way it is. A few whack jobs not believing it does not negate the facts.

Coudn't have written it better myself.

- Peter.

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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 2780336)

In the religious view, especially jewish, christian and muslim, humans are a special creation, we are "other" than the rest of nature. The rest of nature was put here by god for our benefit. What a happy way of seeing things. Since we're outside and not a part of nature, we can exploit it all we want and yet don't have to take responsibility for anything that happens to it.

That last part sounds like something Rush Limbaugh would say, but I don't think you'll hear it from any honest Christians.

For years, I believed reports that James Watt, Secretary of the Interior under Reagan, said that we don't have to protect the environment because Jesus will return and we will be leave this Earth behind. When I heard that he supposedly said that, I thought it was the most perverse thing I ever heard. If Jesus is coming back, don't we want the place to be in good shape for him? As it turns out, Watt never said any such thing. Here's his actual quote:

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...On Feb. 5, 1981, Watt told a congressional oversight committee he believed his job was "to be steward for the natural resources for this generation as well as future generations. I do not know how many future generations we can count on before the Lord returns, whatever it is we have to manage with a skill to have the resources needed for future generations."...

http://motherjones.com/politics/2003/09/ungreening-america-dirty-secrets

He was still a terrible Secretary of the Interior, but maybe not the religious nut job I thought he was.

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Originally Posted by kerry (Post 2780338)

It's sure fire proof that the religion developed after human stopped being hunter gatherers and started being farmers/herders. It is the ideology of farmers/herders.

I don't disagree, but would say religion expanded and was elaborated after ag developed. I still see it's roots pre-ag. What else explains elaborate Neanderthal burials, complete with personal items carefully arranged? While they didn't have as much time to sit around contemplating the infinite, I still think hunter-gatherers were thinking about the big questions:
Who am I?
Why am I here?
What is my fate?
Where are the cookies?

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Originally Posted by The Clk Man (Post 2780147)

Your so called facts are changing daily. :D

They're evolving. Hah!

Where are the cookies with no nuts in them! Friend left choc-o-chip cookies on counter here at work. read the package, yep, "may contain peanuts or tree nuts" Darn.
Seriously, since man became self-aware, I suspect he has been pondering those questions

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Originally Posted by BobK (Post 2780407)

ponder what? whether we have nuts or are nuts?