If filmed from a chopper it must have been sitting on the ground from the angle.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

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Is this from your infinite chopper video wisdom, heck tom you haven't discovered search engines yet.

I think much of the Ethics question would depend on ones coulture-society mindset.
Raising the question.." Is it ethical for a civilised society to impose their will-beliefs on an un-civilised society"?

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Probably not but it depends on the circumstances. Can you give some examples? One well known case here in Colorado resulted in a lot of deaths.

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In particular, I just returned from Bali, Indonesia, and as usual for me when I travel to a place I am not familiar with..I like to research the area.

While keeping in mind that sometimes historical records may be distorted or slanted, I was slightly disturbed by accounts of the local inhabitants recollection of events, in that basically here were these simple island people living peacefully-well of course they had their inter tribal battles-and then the Europeans came along (Dutch), and decided that the island of Bali would make a wonderfull place to set up shop.

Along with the Dutch's adventure came the practise of 'civiliseing' the natives, and of course that meant that their religion would need to be imposed.

I have travelled extensively in Indonesia, and I must say that it seemed rather awkward to interact with Christian-Hindu Indonesians.

Putting things in perspective: I truly do not believe that these island people benifitted from being made to clothe themselves..or forced into not staying natural in their lives..especially in terms of their openess of expressing sexuality.
IE: 'The white man told us that sex is a bad thing, therefore we must attach a stigma too it'.

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Definitely with you on that one. The Four Winds Indian Heritage Center is just 5 blocks from my house. The people who frequent that center are more than aware that not only were they the object of 'civilizing forces' but that those forces were transformed quite readily into a genocidal force--for the good of course.

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

There are a lot of places in Indonesia where my wife will not let me travel alone.
Simply because of the beliefs of the locals. The spirit world-good and evil-is very much alive and well in remote locations.
I suppose that it boils down to whether one believes it or not, and I am sceptical about most of what I have been told.

However, now that I reflect back on my experiance in Bali, I do believe that I picked up a vibe from someone.
The vibe is that, although I am 1/4 Native American, and closer in ancestry to the Indonesians than my white skin indicates.
I feel that these people loathe caucasions deep down inside. Cant say I blame them either.
But, they smile and are curteous simply because the white tourist industry is vital to their economy.

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Yes.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Ba ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

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Good question but I'm not sure that it can be quantified.

I had no idea it was so frequent in bulls.

Several times I've seen my bulls ejaculate without intercourse. I'm not sure what leads up to the activity because there's not the usual rutting going on just a suddenly humped-up bull standing on all fours (not a common sight) and, if you are in the the right place to witness it, his erection and ejaculation. It is done in a split second but just before the action takes place, they appear pretty distressed. Afterwards, they all go around minding their own business like nothing ever happened.

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There's the GEICO caveman....

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Yeah, because everyone knows the earth is flat!

He made that same argument. Parson Malthus' experiment (in which he specifically intended to demonstrate that the giant, industrial-age underclass in England were comparable to uncontrolled vermin), combined with the emerging field of eugenics, led to the early 20th century social experiments such as forced sterilization of 'defectives', and rationalized intentional medical manipulation of people infected with various venereal diseases and of course, the Big Kahuna, Nazi extermination of defectives like the feebleminded, homosexuals, Jews, gypsies, etc.

I write that as a general warning about where this particular path has lead mankind in the past.

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