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aklim · #16 10-12-2011, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

They need to raise taxes all around. On high income earners and on the 40 so odd percent that doesn't pay federal taxes.

Why? If they really need more money, show us some proper accounting without shuffling money all around and we can talk

TwitchKitty · #17 10-13-2011, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Please elaborate. Are yo still whining about the change in donation to parties and making wild statements are have they been granted different rights by the SCOTUS.

I cannot reason a person out of something they were not reasoned into.

The Internet is not your friend, seek help elsewhere, it is a big world out there and you are a very small person.

Jim B. · #18 10-13-2011, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TwitchKitty

This is a rebellion against the corporate takeover of this country. The dollar has replaced the vote as the unit of political power. Corporations have rights of personhood but non of the responsibilities. The government no longer represents the interests of the voters - only the interests of big money. No, you don't have big money even if you think you do.

Somebody FINALLY gets it. This is what the protests are about in a nutshell.

The country is a plutocracy.

Big money runs everything, the Supreme Copurt has sanctioned it by saying Bif corporate interests are "people" that can bribe congress with "political campaign contributions" to get whatever they want, and however they want it..

Botnst · #19 10-13-2011, 07:31 AM

I wish somebody would give me money so I could be important, too!

RichC · #20 10-13-2011, 08:03 AM

Were really trying hard at Occupy Dallas to come up with some kind of focused message.

Come join us and help.

Were at pioneer park in front of the convention center.

Ask around for Rich, you should be able to find me in the media tent.

Bring a tent of your own and stay for a night, it is a really fun place to be.

MS Fowler · #21 10-13-2011, 08:10 AM

I do not see any unity of purpose in the protests. Some are confused at best. I can agree with some of the issues---bailing out the wall street firms and banks was wrong, IMO. But a lot of the protesters seem clueless when asked what they want to see changed--they are angry at having to repay student loans. They are angry that some people earn a lot of money. But as to any real-world - PLAN of how to address their issues, they don't have any idea except "soak the rich".
Some of the protesters are college kids, or unemployed just looking for a good time.
Then throw into that mix the extreme America haters--the ones leading chants with bull horns and you have a great deal of "sound and fury....signifying nothing"
The coming rain and colder weather will show their mettle--whether they stick it out or go away.

POS · #22 10-13-2011, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TwitchKitty

This is a rebellion against the corporate takeover of this country. The dollar has replaced the vote as the unit of political power. Corporations have rights of personhood but non of the responsibilities. The government no longer represents the interests of the voters - only the interests of big money. No, you don't have big money even if you think you do.

Read some history books; it's always been this way. Nothing new here, move along...

aklim · #23 10-13-2011, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TwitchKitty

I cannot reason a person out of something they were not reasoned into.

The Internet is not your friend, seek help elsewhere, it is a big world out there and you are a very small person.

I guess you just are whining without a point then. How expected. I did think it was a simple question of why YOU thought they got personhood from the SCOTUS but I guess that was a little much. But I can always google more rhetoric from the past.

aklim · #24 10-13-2011, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

bailing out the wall street firms and banks was wrong, IMO.

Thing is, you bailed out a corporate entity and if you expect it to show gratitude, you are going to be mistaken. If you are going to look for gratitude, go adopt a dog from a shelter.

We bailed them out because we didn't want to go thru the pain of change. As much as I dislike the change, it has to be done. When you try to stop it, you only perpetuate the problem. Let it die. Sure there will be discomfort but that is the way it goes. You took the good years, now there are bad years till the new one comes along that is more resistant and stronger.

Then you expect it to be grateful and do something for you ON IT'S OWN ACCORD. Sorry, you were stupid then. You should have had something in writing.

MS Fowler · #25 10-13-2011, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Thing is, you bailed out a corporate entity and if you expect it to show gratitude, you are going to be mistaken. If you are going to look for gratitude, go adopt a dog from a shelter.

We bailed them out because we didn't want to go thru the pain of change. As much as I dislike the change, it has to be done. When you try to stop it, you only perpetuate the problem. Let it die. Sure there will be discomfort but that is the way it goes. You took the good years, now there are bad years till the new one comes along that is more resistant and stronger.

Then you expect it to be grateful and do something for you ON IT'S OWN ACCORD. Sorry, you were stupid then. You should have had something in writing.

AGREE. Capitalism is hard. You make bad decisions and your company goes away, and someone else steps up, acquires what had been your assets, and tries to run it better. Competition requires efficiency which leads to lower prices. Take the RISK away from risk/reward and you no longer have capitalism. Crony-capitalism and corporatism are not the same as capitalism. When the government gets involved in picking winners and losers we, the People get stuck with higher prices and the cost of the subsidy.

aklim · #26 10-13-2011, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by POS

Read some history books; it's always been this way. Nothing new here, move along...

Maybe we need more bread and circuses? Heaven forbid that these protesters actually try to get a skill and be more competitive in the new world out there. Yes, you HAD a great thing going but the party is over. Sorry but you have to move on to something else. Sure, I thought this business plan was a great idea but over 5 years, it didn't produce like I hoped. Move on to the next business and forget the old.

chasinthesun · #27 10-13-2011, 10:50 AM

I wouldnt label people in the crowds as unemployed ,employed but not happy would more correctly fit the bill.You can see alot of students at these rallies ,youthful people are standing up probably because it is their future their fighting for ,one without an endless cycle of debt .Has anyone here recently sent a kid off to College? If a young HS grads parents are struggling then their dreams of getting ahead in life with a degree are dashed soon after with the higher and higher cost of a degree.One face doesnt represent this problem.

MTI · #28 10-13-2011, 10:59 AM

We wondered when the public protests seen in Europe earlier were going to show up in the US. While the winter may take it's toll on occupiers, it could be interesting after the thaw.

Hatterasguy · #29 10-13-2011, 11:32 AM

Other than being pissed off and having time on their hands they really don't have a message.

I'd love to protest but I'm to busy working.

mgburg · #30 10-13-2011, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

I do not see any unity of purpose in the protests. Some are confused at best. I can agree with some of the issues---bailing out the wall street firms and banks was wrong, IMO. But a lot of the protesters seem clueless when asked what they want to see changed--they are angry at having to repay student loans. They are angry that some people earn a lot of money. But as to any real-world - PLAN of how to address their issues, they don't have any idea except "soak the rich". ... Some of the protesters are college kids, or unemployed just looking for a good time. ... Then throw into that mix the extreme America haters--the ones leading chants with bull horns and you have a great deal of "sound and fury....signifying nothing" ... The coming rain and colder weather will show their mettle--whether they stick it out or go away.

Where's a hurricane when you really need one?