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Old 11-14-2011, 01:49 PM
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Since we engaged in eight years of murder of innocent human beings while we backed vicious dictators, I'd give that one a "yes".
You mean, more like 50-100 years. What about the Shah of Iran, Arbenz, Hussein(yes! in the 80s), just to name a few? This being said, we also did a lot of good by bankrupting the Soviet Union, but we also do have a lot to be ashamed of. And should be men enough to admit it.

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And apologizing to the world is the solution?
It's not as if there isn't precident. This nation is certainly big enough, strong enough and right minded enough to acknowledge it's mistakes and wrongdoing, unless you disagree with that. Where you may perceive weakness in such an act, it is surely a sign of strength. This nation has apologized for bad acts before, particularly to its own people, and it likely won't end anytime soon.
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Since George Bush was unable to stop Iran in it's relentless drive towards nuclear weapons, I don't see what exactly Romney thinks he can do. A war with Iran would be insanity. It would send oil prices into the stratosphere, and war with Iran, a country ten times the size of Iraq that would have the backing of Russia and China, would bleed us white.
Well, not quite ten times as big as Iraq, but big. More than double the population and approx 3 times as large in area. Bigger than Texas, California, Montana, and Georgia put together.
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It's not as if there isn't precident. This nation is certainly big enough, strong enough and right minded enough to acknowledge it's mistakes and wrongdoing, unless you disagree with that. Where you may perceive weakness in such an act, it is surely a sign of strength. This nation has apologized for bad acts before, particularly to its own people, and it likely won't end anytime soon.

What do you think that apologizing to enemies accomplishes?
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What do you think that apologizing to enemies accomplishes?
I'd love to know what Obama said that you consider to have been an apology to an enemy.
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I'd love to know what Obama said that you consider to have been an apology to an enemy.
Obviously having a foreign born muslim president is apology enough.
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You mean, more like 50-100 years. What about the Shah of Iran, Arbenz, Hussein(yes! in the 80s), just to name a few? This being said, we also did a lot of good by bankrupting the Soviet Union, but we also do have a lot to be ashamed of. And should be men enough to admit it.
We did not actually engage in outright undeniable murder for the sake of murder until Mr. Bush came along, IMO, but that's only because we ran out of Indians.
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Well, not quite ten times as big as Iraq, but big. More than double the population and approx 3 times as large in area. Bigger than Texas, California, Montana, and Georgia put together.
My mistake, I was under the mistaken impression Iran had ten times the population of Iraq. Must be some other country Obama was born in.
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I'd love to know what Obama said that you consider to have been an apology to an enemy.
He makes things up.
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I'd love to know what Obama said that you consider to have been an apology to an enemy.

GOOD GOSH! Have you not been watching the news the last three years?
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We did not actually engage in outright undeniable murder for the sake of murder until Mr. Bush came along, IMO, but that's only because we ran out of Indians.

And just who did he murder?
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Reminds me of that ol' future episode of the Simpsons:

"What's the difference between Pakistan and a pancake?"
"I don't know a pancake that's been nuked by India!"

All jokes aside, good for Gov. Romney! If we continue following all these joke pacts we have e.g. NATO and the Geneva Convention, and "leading from behind" as one of Obama's advisers put it, sure, it could prove ineffective to enter a war in Iran. But if we follow the old scorched earth plan, I don't foresee a loss. The U.S. has the most combat ready, field trained military in the world. Not to mention, should we decide, we have 12 SUPER carriers at our disposal ready to flatten any city in a matter of I'd say 24 hours.

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Old 11-14-2011, 05:22 PM
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GOOD GOSH! Have you not been watching the news the last three years?
We asked you to answer the question. You guys just make things up instead.
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Old 11-14-2011, 05:23 PM
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And just who did he murder?
Only innocent Iraqi women and children by the hundreds of thousands, no big deal. Perhaps you can tell us all what they did to deserve to die.

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