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Old 11-19-2011, 03:25 PM
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modern design is a function of passenger and pedestrian safety, fuel efficiency, mod cons, space, etc etc etc.

Invariably, they will all look the same at some point as we strive for better efficiency figures, better pedestrian safety, etc etc etc.
"Pedestrian safety"
Pontiac had some front end designs back in the 70's (IIRC) that looked like they'd present serious danger to pedestrians.

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...new 65 C. De Ville. White with red leather...
Gorgeous car. Mine was white with white leather, with black fabric in each of the four sitting positions.
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Old 11-19-2011, 10:12 PM
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Gorgeous car. Mine was white with white leather, with black fabric in each of the four sitting positions.
Yup, I think I had wood all the way to town, and not because of my girlfriend draped over my shoulder.
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In the sixties our neighbor could barely get 5K on a set of tires on their Caddy.

The fellow at the end of the block got 60K on the front tires on his Karman Ghia. My dad nearly had wood when he told me about the Karman Ghia tire mileage.

I love fuel injection but my 87 Mitsubishi has a carb and it works as well as fuel injection for starting. Nothing short of astounding actually.
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That would be a 1970 Belvedere GTX
Belevedere and GTX are different models..both Plymouth's..but different animals.
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NA 6.6L vs. 2.0L turbo. Another comparison would be the "high performance" turbo V8 from those firebirds. 4.9L turbo 210hp, right about the same as my 2.0T. Admittedly 345lb/ft torque is higher than the 4cyl...after a simple ECU reflash it gets pretty damn close though. Direct injection is a wonder!


Edit/add: OTOH it shows how much turbo and DI technology have progressed. A turbo on a production musclecar engine was revolutionary back then, now everything high performance has a turbo on it and they are making gobs of power. My ultimate machine would have to be an R34 Skyline GT-R. The new ones are incredible (seen a few of them on the roads too) but I'm not a fan of the styling. Technologically they are a wonder.

It's not necessarily the AMOUNT of torque that makes an engine feel "torquey." It's where it lies in the power band. A good example is the TDI VW. It makes very little horsepower, but what little torque it has is at an RPM that allows it to push you back against the seat.

The 289/302 Ford didn't have much torque, but due to where it fell in the power band, it FELT torquey.
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:37 AM
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It's not necessarily the AMOUNT of torque that makes an engine feel "torquey." It's where it lies in the power band. A good example is the TDI VW. It makes very little horsepower, but what little torque it has is at an RPM that allows it to push you back against the seat.

The 289/302 Ford didn't have much torque, but due to where it fell in the power band, it FELT torquey.
Agree--When I had my first Falcon Sprint Convertible, back in 1966-1971, very few people would believe that the little 260 ( smaller version of 289) was bone stock. The acceleration numbers were not that good ( 0-60 in about 11 seconds) but if felt quicker. 0-30 was about 3 seconds about as quick to 30 mph as anything then on the road--remember the skinny tires.
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Before it was called Camero

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Actually, the Camaro came out in 67.
This is true. I too had an extreme interest in cars as early as 7 years old. Just to show off in front of my brothers, I would always call off the make of a car approaching before they could. Matter of fact, sheesh!, that was before there was a freeway here!!
As a sophmore in high school,1967, I had my sites on the 1969 Mustang! Then 1968 came and the movie Bullet. After that my dad crushed my dream of a fast car.
Parents would not allow me a car until I graduated. An incentive to stay in school I guess. But in September 1966 a photographer from some car magazine snapped a picture of a new kind of Chevy being tested. Then Chevrolet was considering the name of this new design.
Two names made the top of the list. The Panther, or the Camero. Well we all know which one made the cut.

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