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The Swede 09-22-2007 02:03 PM

^^^

yeah, f the man

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Hatterasguy 09-22-2007 02:29 PM

I enjoy watching them on TV, they do provide excellent entertainment.

t walgamuth 09-22-2007 02:52 PM

My dad who was in the insurance game for many years said that cop cars get wrecked on a very regular basis.

I respect anyone who will do the job but I don't put them on a pedistal. They are just regular people who happen to be equipped with lethal weapons... so when I get pulled over I say yes sir and no sir and offer nothing to rile them. For the time you are sitting there they are judge and jury and the whole deal including executioner if they happen to be inclined that way.

A very small percentage (probably about like the general population as a percentage) have serious mental or other problems which could render them dangerous under the right circumstances.

But most are very very good. In Indiana the best outfit is the Indiana State Police. They are the best trained and best paid. It oddly was a ISP trooper that wrote me the bogus ticket though.

When I was a youngster I delivered the newspaper to a ISP trooper and his family. He was a very nice friendly fellow who said that he had his 62 chebby up over 120 mph about every night chasing down some speeder. He seemed to enjoy them.....'course there was a lot less traffic back then. He and his young wife had a little boy die from Mennengitis IIRC.....that was really a sad deal.

Tom W

Emmerich 09-22-2007 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashman (Post 169813)
But a mandatory vehicle GPS tracking system could be put in place and used to track vehicles so that cops would not have to chase them.

My personal view is that cops should chase only if safe to do so, otherwise, just call out the choppers and let them track from the air.
Alon

And how do you install this on every vehicle? We cannot force people to get inspections on their cars or have insurance, who will be the GPS police? And better, who will pay for it? And how do you keep people from disabling it? And how do you know which car is the one you want?

And how many police departments have helicopters and how many crimes occur at the same time that would require one?

Your solution is no solution.

Carleton Hughes 09-23-2007 04:01 AM

Well,I just don't know...If a cop ran after my 300D he would surely get exhausted.

diametricalbenz 09-23-2007 04:34 AM

There's no good solution and every time they just pull over and give up there's a time where the people speed off and plow into a bunch of school kids waiting on a bench at the bus stop and it's tragic.

I believe the solution lies in modifying the behavior of someoene/anyone who is going to run from the police. Make the penalty so severe that nobody will do it.

RichC 09-23-2007 05:10 AM

.

NO

I do not want a police officer putting my life in danger to catch a criminal.

We can have rovers running around on the planet Mars,
And we can figure out a way to catch a speeding criminal
that does not endanger our lives.

.

Dee8go 09-23-2007 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truckinik (Post 1626406)
I got nailed last night for wreckless driving because I was sitting at a light spinning my tires, in downtown Hillsborough, Nc. after leaving the bar. I was slightly buzzed, from a few drinks, and had a huge "Rambo" knife sitting out in plain sight on the passenger floor. When writing the ticket, and looking me over, the moron cop, failed to notice that my insurance is expired, the knife on the floor, my cracked windshield, and my very obvious buzz. He couldn't even figure out what my Ct. registration was when I handed it to him. He did end up writing me a wreckless driving ticket in the end though. He threatened to haul me off to jail, but I think my commercial drivers license saved my @$$. I suppose I was very very lucky, yet again...Really been pushing the envelope lately though. This 560 SEC, is a bad influence to me and will eventually probably cost me my license. OH WELL, Guess I'll be driving without a license all together once that happens. Won't be the first time...LOL!

Hey, maybe we'll all get to see you on the Fall premier of "Cops.":D

mgburg 09-23-2007 09:46 AM

*** Send Lawyers, Guns & Money... ***
 
A few years back, WI. got rid of its "Eye In The Sky" force 'cause of budget issues. IINM, I believe it's still the case.

But, next door in MN., on a roadway I frequent quite a bit, you folks might recall a particular motorcyclist that got nailed for over 170mph (I can't remember the exact MPH reading they nailed him on...) due to the "EITS" airplane that managed to track him (w/some help on the ground, of course...) down AT HIS HOME AFTER they "broke off pursuit" due to the nature of his offense.

Cooler heads prevailed...at least the dipchit cyclist had a helmet on when he was "screaming" down the road. His excuse? Who cares? His punishment? I can't remember, but I do remember thinking that it didn't seem to be severe enough when you considered that fact that there was an airplane, countless troopers and the high-speed nature of offense as it was occuring. If that idiot had dumped the bike at the apex of his hijinks, he'd have looked like a badly mashed burrito (sp?) on a sidewalk on a Saturday night. (I would have hated to have been on the "meat-wagon" duty for that particular run.) :eek: :(

Now, as to whether the pursuits are warranted...each situation has its own merits...

First: Does the offender/suspect/idiot (OSI) even stop for the officer when the lights first go on?

Second: Assuming that the OSI does stop, something prompts the OSI to take off - He couldn't handle the aftershave lotion smell the officer had on - the officer was a lady-cop and the OSI has issues w/his mother - who knows what goes on inside the mind of the OSI?

Third: Was the OSI wanted for other crimes? Is he still "tearing up the streets" in the area? Is he "America's Most Wanted?" Some decisions have to be made in a matter of seconds - then the cooler heads are brought in later to sort it out...

Fourth: And I think this is the really grey area of all decisions: Will the chase, and eventual apprehension of this OSI, result in a safer community AND can the officer get it done without anyone getting hurt in the process, including Mr. OSI?

I personally believe that ANYONE that runs from a LEO, when apprehended, regardless the excuse or circumstance, spends, minimum, one year in Sheriff Apio's tent city in New Mexico/Arizona (location?) eating green bologna and wearing pink under/outerwear. And that's just for the running part. Then, when they get back to civilization, then try them for the original charge of whatever caused them to run in the first place...burnt out license plate lamp, tires too low on air pressure, being too ugly to be seen driving in public, whatever...

And, if a BHL (bleeding-heart liberal) thinks that the "punishment" is too harsh for the crime, make the BHL "hire" the OSI for his own personal driver for the next year.

Maybe, then, the BHL will come down from his fairy-dusted dream-castle and walk amoung the masses. :dizzy2:

But I doubt it... :rolleyes:

:P

Dee8go 09-23-2007 09:58 AM

I always think of the adage, "You can't outrun a radio." Maybe in some cases you CAN outrun a radio. Otherwise, why would the police get into these chases? If the perp is going to run, he's just going to run faster the faster they chase him.

I'm trying to imagine somebody going 170 on a motorcycle. He should have been commited to a mental institution for going that fast on a public road.

mgburg 09-23-2007 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dee8go (Post 1627045)
...I'm trying to imagine somebody going 170 on a motorcycle. He should have been commited to a mental institution for going that fast on a public road.

The "funny" part? The area where this "occurred" isn't really all that smooth...and apparently, the way they figured out his speed was by using those "white strips" of paint that they have spaced out every few hundred yards or so - they timed him between the strips and did the math - I would have loved being able to hear the conversation between the plane and ground units on that run...they even mentioned that he was going faster than the airplane itself, but they had managed to get his plate earlier before things got too far out of hand and were able to track him to his home...

Now...that's stupid.

:rolleyes:

truckinik 09-23-2007 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dee8go (Post 1627024)
Hey, maybe we'll all get to see you on the Fall premier of "Cops.":D

Not likely, it would make for a very short clip. I never even moved the car, during the whole thing. I was sitting at the light and the cop came up from in front of me from the opposite direction, up to my driver's door. there was no chase at all. three of them just simply boxxed me in at the light, it happened so quickly that as the smoke cleared, and I was able to see again, all I saw was cop cars, and flashing lights all around me. I swear they must watch the bar, for obvious drunks to pull over as they depart from the place. Unfamiliar territory, everyone on the sidewalk was just laughing at the scene, and telling me I was surely going to jail. (I thought I was too.) I was a bit nervous, but laughed at the people on the sidewalk in front of the bar, as I drove away, and the cops went over to talk with them. I guess he lectured them about instigating people or something, I can't be sure though. The owner was outside, and in the crowd. I'm probably banned fron his bar, now that I attracted attention to his place needlessly. That's ok, there are a few more in the area, and i have a lot of exploration to do in all of the neighboring towns. By the time I ever get back to that place, it will be long forgotten about I'm sure. Just another bar I'm banned from. I very rarely ever even consume alcohol, suff like this has happened before when I go out alone. seems I behave myself better when I go out with someone else. Just a little burn-out, tire spinning Brake stand. No harm, why are people such cry babies about everything. What could possibly have happened? I mean, ok, so my brakes could have let go...big deal, the light was green, and I had a clear path, and I would have just driven across the intersection at normal speed. Speedometer only wet up to 25, so I would have still been well below the legal speed limit if my brakes had let go...
Orange county North Carolina cops are a bunch of little girls, and fags if they can't take a joke, especially since they're some of the worst drivers on the road, aside from mail carriers, and school bus drivers.

truckinik 09-23-2007 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dee8go (Post 1627024)
Hey, maybe we'll all get to see you on the Fall premier of "Cops.":D

Not likely, it would make for a very short clip. I never even moved the car, during the whole thing. I was sitting at the light and the cop came up from in front of me from the opposite direction, up to my driver's door. there was no chase at all. three of them just simply boxxed me in at the light, it happened so quickly that as the smoke cleared, and I was able to see again, all I saw was cop cars, and flashing lights all around me. I swear they must watch the bar, for obvious drunks to pull over as they depart from the place. Unfamiliar territory, everyone on the sidewalk was just laughing at the scene, and telling me I was surely going to jail. (I thought I was too.) I was a bit nervous, but laughed at the people on the sidewalk in front of the bar, as I drove away, and the cops went over to talk with them. I guess he lectured them about instigating people or something, I can't be sure though. The owner was outside, and in the crowd. I'm probably banned fron his bar, now that I attracted attention to his place needlessly. That's ok, there are a few more in the area, and i have a lot of exploration to do in all of the neighboring towns. By the time I ever get back to that place, it will be long forgotten about I'm sure. Just another bar I'm banned from. I very rarely ever even consume alcohol, suff like this has happened before when I go out alone. seems I behave myself better when I go out with someone else. Just a little burn-out, tire spinning Brake stand. No harm, why are people such cry babies about everything. What could possibly have happened? I mean, ok, so my brakes could have let go...big deal, the light was green, and I had a clear path, and I would have just driven across the intersection at normal speed. Speedometer only wet up to 25, so I would have still been well below the legal speed limit if my brakes had let go...
Orange county North Carolina cops are a bunch of little girls, and fags if they can't take a joke, especially since they're some of the worst drivers on the road, aside from mail carriers, and school bus drivers.

truckinik 09-23-2007 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dee8go (Post 1627024)
Hey, maybe we'll all get to see you on the Fall premier of "Cops.":D

Not likely, it would make for a very short clip. I never even moved the car, during the whole thing. I was sitting at the light and the cop came up from in front of me from the opposite direction, up to my driver's door. there was no chase at all. three of them just simply boxxed me in at the light, it happened so quickly that as the smoke cleared, and I was able to see again, all I saw was cop cars, and flashing lights all around me. I swear they must watch the bar, for obvious drunks to pull over as they depart from the place. Unfamiliar territory, everyone on the sidewalk was just laughing at the scene, and telling me I was surely going to jail. (I thought I was too.) I was a bit nervous, but laughed at the people on the sidewalk in front of the bar, as I drove away, and the cops went over to talk with them. I guess he lectured them about instigating people or something, I can't be sure though. The owner was outside, and in the crowd. I'm probably banned fron his bar, now that I attracted attention to his place needlessly. That's ok, there are a few more in the area, and i have a lot of exploration to do in all of the neighboring towns. By the time I ever get back to that place, it will be long forgotten about I'm sure. Just another bar I'm banned from. I very rarely ever even consume alcohol, suff like this has happened before when I go out alone. seems I behave myself better when I go out with someone else. Just a little burn-out, tire spinning Brake stand. No harm, why are people such cry babies about everything. What could possibly have happened? I mean, ok, so my brakes could have let go...big deal, the light was green, and I had a clear path, and I would have just driven across the intersection at normal speed. Speedometer only wet up to 25, so I would have still been well below the legal speed limit if my brakes had let go...
Orange county North Carolina cops are a bunch of little girls, and fags if they can't take a joke, especially since they're some of the worst drivers on the road, aside from mail carriers, and school bus drivers.

truckinik 09-23-2007 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dee8go (Post 1627024)
Hey, maybe we'll all get to see you on the Fall premier of "Cops.":D

Not likely, it would make for a very short clip. I never even moved the car, during the whole thing. I was sitting at the light and the cop came up from in front of me from the opposite direction, up to my driver's door. there was no chase at all. three of them just simply boxxed me in at the light, it happened so quickly that as the smoke cleared, and I was able to see again, all I saw was cop cars, and flashing lights all around me. I swear they must watch the bar, for obvious drunks to pull over as they depart from the place. Unfamiliar territory, everyone on the sidewalk was just laughing at the scene, and telling me I was surely going to jail. (I thought I was too.) I was a bit nervous, but laughed at the people on the sidewalk in front of the bar, as I drove away, and the cops went over to talk with them. I guess he lectured them about instigating people or something, I can't be sure though. The owner was outside, and in the crowd. I'm probably banned fron his bar, now that I attracted attention to his place needlessly. That's ok, there are a few more in the area, and i have a lot of exploration to do in all of the neighboring towns. By the time I ever get back to that place, it will be long forgotten about I'm sure. Just another bar I'm banned from. I very rarely ever even consume alcohol, suff like this has happened before when I go out alone. seems I behave myself better when I go out with someone else. Just a little burn-out, tire spinning Brake stand. No harm, why are people such cry babies about everything. What could possibly have happened? I mean, ok, so my brakes could have let go...big deal, the light was green, and I had a clear path, and I would have just driven across the intersection at normal speed. Speedometer only wet up to 25, so I would have still been well below the legal speed limit if my brakes had let go...
Orange county North Carolina cops are a bunch of little girls, and fags if they can't take a joke, especially since they're some of the worst drivers on the road, aside from mail carriers, and school bus drivers.:laugh3:


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