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Geothermal versus Fracking...
Does Geothermal Power Cause Earthquakes? | Popular Science
I'm not an expert, but from what I see, it doesn't seem much different, in theory. Drill a deep hole, pump high pressure water to form cracks in the rock, bring hot water up to warm house or run turbine. Wouldn't both bring possible hydrocarbons into the water supply?
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The geothermal is not done in hydrocarbon containing formations.
It normally uses granite formations that contain low levels of uranium, hence the heat. The water is heated by the formation, it does not frack the formation. Well at least that is the case on this side of the pond. Fracking is drilling into formations such as coal & fracturing the formation to allow any hydrocarbon to be released. The type that is in question at the moment is normally shallow depth and can be close to ground water. Conventional oil/gas wells into low porosity formations are "fracked" as well. This used to be called proving the well. Often with explosive charges to help the recovery rates.
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A neighbor has a geo thermal. I went over when they were installing it and here what I can say. The GT system is a closed loop system. He has 2 375 ft deep loops for heating and cooling. All the glycol is the tube either heats or cools the house via a heat exchanger/air handler.
Fracing if I understand the process uses High pressure to "FRACTURE" the shale to release the gas.
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I did not read anything in the linked article about geothermal inducing hydrocarbons into the water supply. The gist of the article was geothermal drilling causing earthquakes. Fracking has been cited as a reson for earthquakes and the contamination of ground water supplies. I did not read of a connection between the two operations in the linked article. |
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I have always believed that earth quakes are caused by the movement of techtonic plates in the earth's crust.
If there was a very minor tremor as things settled after fracking, you could probably make a connection. A proper quake is unlikely.
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You didn't see the connection to earthquakes, really? Did you even read the article? As for pollution from hydrocarbons, I know that larger Enhanced Geothermal plants contain systems to control the hydrocarbon release, but couldn't an earthquake from the fracking, which is done in this, cause possible issues for the plant's systems and release toxins? I'm actually trying to understand the complete difference between this and fracking for natural gas.
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I don't know...I'm still reading on the subject. I was hoping someone could add a few more links for me to read.
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earthquakes are bush's fault
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The one in the article drills deeper into the Earth at locations of tectonic activity or other "hot spots" (think Iceland) to gather the Earth's heat (through magma) and turn it into electricity (usually, sometimes for heat itself). Thus the drilling is a bit different (larger scale than your neighbor's home) and since it is in a tectonically active area (usually) to begin with it probably wouldn't be too hard to link a connection to some Earthquake. activity.
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Forgive my confusion on your answer, but there's no need to be an a$$ about this... I'm tired and the two seem very similar to me. Ground water contamination seems to come from the ponds of used fracking fluids, from what I've read so far, as well as seeping hydrocarbons, as per some studies I've looked at. I'm asking because at the recent borough council meeting, one of the local factories is proposing a study for enhanced geothermal drilling. We already have natural gas fracking going on to the north east of us, which is a highly debated topic...yet this didn't receive much debate. I doubt it will happen, as I live in coal mining country, but they think they may be able to get to a safe depth, and still pull heat from the ground. Enhanced geothermal and geothermal are new to me...
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Advanced Carbon Based Life Forms
Such as You and Me.
"Like","Desire","NEED": CLEAN, CLEAR DRINKING (Potable) WATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Common Sense objection to "Fracking" is the "Roustabout" types that use it ,USE SUCH TOXIC FLUIDS THAT IT POISONS THE DRINKING WATER!!! [F**k the (Alleged) Earth Quakes,That's a "Red Herring"] If I'm poisoned by the drinking water, who cares if the china breaks in 7.0 ??? The Oil and Gas companies that use this practice are spending MILLIONS in Public Advertising (Spelled "Concealment") So that they may use the process to SELL OUR NATURAL GAS .... (WAIT FOR IT)... OVERSEAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Geothermal heating/cooling is completely different.
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