How many ASE certifications did you say you had?

If it is safe, what killed the man? http://www.vho.org/GB/c/FPB/DieselDeath.pdf

Just because it takes longer to kill you doesn't make it safe in an enclosed environment. As I said, if you can be sure your exhaust is not leaking and the wind is blowing rearwards, sure.

Thanks for the link, I saved a copy.

Glad to hear that you got it going! Sounds like a great little car :)

Lately I've been surprised to see just how peppy an Euro NA 617 can be even in a two ton G-Class

My car will run 100 in either fourth or fifth. The euro is peppy.

At idle there is almost none in a diesel. A diesel is never short on oxegen especially at idle.

The article says he attempted suicide by piping his exhaust into the car. He had advanced heart disease. Death was by oil and soot accumulation not by carbon monoxide poisioning. It says right in the article that death by carbon monoxide is not possible in a diesel. They did not know how long he sat in the car with the engine running to accumulate enough soot to do damage.

The conclusion is that while a diesel is "safe" that abuse of it can be toxic. (you can kill yourself by drinking too much water too.)

Fact is that a properly running gas engine with today's emission controls is impossible to commit suicide with either.

Taking one article and cherry picking it's contents doesn't make diesel exhaust safe by any means.

There were failed suicide attempts with modern gasoline engines, that doesn't mean it's impossible to commit suicide with the exhaust.


People choose to ignore the fact that diesel exhaust also contains a list of carcinogens, including Sulfer Dioxide as mentioned in the article and myself. The vehicle used to commit suicide burns alot cleaner than the 1950's technology OM617 engine. It still emits CO, and long term exposure is the same as short term exposure to gas engine exhaust.

It is completely possible to get CO poisoning from a diesel engine in a semi truck. Contributing factors include weather, temperature, and engine condition can greatly affect the chance of CO poisoning. A good example of this is that of a semi with an exhaust problem when it is cold and raining is at greater risk than a person in the same semi on a sunny day. The reason for this is the barometric pressure holds the CO closer to the ground and allows it to enter the truck.

The marine industry takes CO in diesel exhaust seriously, as well they should. So does OSHA, I guess they are all wet also. I suppose that ignorance is bliss, but it can be deadly.

At idle CO levels go up, because of lowered combustion chamber temps.

I don't care what certification you have you are dead wrong in your comments about the relative safety of a diesel.

I did not cherry pick the article. It was Aklim's article offered to support you and it did nothing to help your case. In fact it agreed with me regarding Carbon Monoxide poisoning.

My advice about staying in the car instead of walking to try to find help stands.

I have all the licenses I need to practice my chosen profession.

Having an ASE is a fine thing to be sure, but I am an automotive hobbiest and will stay that.

Not in a diesel.

100% misinformation being posted again.


Care to share some data from your four gas analyzer? I can prove it.

Yes, with no liability from giving out dangerous advice to clients because you are a hobbiest posting on the internet. Not a shop owner with everyting to lose if I gave my clients the same kind of misinformation presented here.

Good for you, but keep your misinformation to yourself. Don't post it on the internet for some houswife who doesn't know any better to follow.

Your advice was to leave the vehicle running all night and that no harm could come to the occupant.

The "walking to get help" whining is just obfuscation.