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Old 02-13-2012, 12:35 PM
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why you volunteer nothing to the police when you get pulled over

Lesson for all those other big mouthed idiots like myself who insist on chatting with the police officer.



Had a short conversation with the cop about my 89 van when he whacked me in NY state. Circumstances were I was traveling with traffic, but I had out of state plates on a bright green work van, which draws the eye. Out of cars to pull over, he chose me because I wasn't likely to dispute the ticket 300 miles from my home state. (not that he needed any help, since I put my foot in my mouth)

Actual conversation went something like this- (relevant part)

"do you know why I pulled you over?"
"I was probably going to fast?"
"I have you traveling at 75 with a radar gun. Are you aware this is a 55 zone?"
"Are you sure I was going 75? top speed of this van is only 70 something, its not very fast."

As you can see, he made my smart a$$ question into a statement, and reaffirmed it with another non relevant part of my further stupid statements. This information is handed back to you as a signed document with your ticket, (which in NY state requires you plead guilty before knowing the fine or punishment. Clever of them)

Never make statements, I should have said "I don't know" for every question, and volunteered nothing while being courteous and polite. Now I can't send the ticket to my lawyer and try and dispute it for reduced points or lower fine. Oops.
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Old 02-13-2012, 12:37 PM
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Does RI share points with NY (NY doesn't assess points for out of state violations, from personal experience - other states may be similar)? If it doesn't, pay the ticket, and privately hope a truck whacks the lying ass of a cop during a traffic stop. Karma can be a b*tch.

As far as pleading guilty, you can always plead not guilty. Though the judge is more likely to believe a cop than a citizen, sadly.
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Old 02-13-2012, 12:40 PM
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Another prospective member of the ACLU! Why say anything? Just show them the card!
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Old 02-13-2012, 12:44 PM
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Does RI share points with NY (NY doesn't with NJ, from personal experience)? If it doesn't, pay the ticket, and privately hope a truck whacks the thieving ass of a cop during a traffic stop.
Let me tell you about the beauty that is the RI point system. There is none.

AH HAHAHAHA

This would be a 4pt ticket in NY, I pay the 300 plus dollars fine it will be, and won't make a single difference on my RI license.

FWIW, I have two other tickets pending from the last month in RI based off my stupid purchase of a powerful fast car (now selling).

All added up would be 10 pts in NY, which has a limit of 11 before taking your license, and severe punishments after 6 I think. I am very lucky at the moment, and should be able to pay myself out of this hole ive dug and be safe. I am not exceeding 65 from now on, ill be driving my 86 1.6 diesel VW as my personal car.

I am actually a very safe driver, but speeding is a chronic problem, and is the very reason I first bought a MB diesel. Plenty fast to get you there, but won't be creeping up to 80+ without work.
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Old 02-13-2012, 12:48 PM
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Let me tell you about the beauty that is the RI point system. There is none.
And the cop knows it!!! Which is why he gave you an outrageous ticket -- he's perfectly aware that you won't fight it too hard. Call it the out-of-state driving tax and move on.

I got a ticket in NJ last year. The cop actually had the nerve to say - "I see you have a NY license, just send the fine here, pretty sure you won't get points."
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Old 02-13-2012, 12:58 PM
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And the cop knows it!!! Which is why he gave you an outrageous ticket -- he's perfectly aware that you won't fight it too hard. Call it the out-of-state driving tax and move on.

I got a ticket in NJ last year. The cop actually had the nerve to say - "I see you have a NY license, just send the fine here, pretty sure you won't get points."
You are probably correct, a cynically enterprising cop. RI awards higher penalties I believe, and no points means they often throw the book at people for things that other states might add points instead.

In my cirumstance, two tickets were 20 over midmorning events on sparsely populated highways. The NY thing was actually a 65 limit, but apparently there is a single section of 55 as you pass under a bridge. Road was straight as an arrow. The last ticket was a 10 over, 35 in a 25 down a grade high in 3rd gear on my other car.
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You are probably correct, a cynically enterprising cop.
Enterprising? Nah, just doing his job as a tax collector. Being an actual cop is merely a hobby on his part.
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of course hindsight is 20/20. When traveling out of state, best to stay 5 MPH BELOW the posted speed limit because it is exactly as you say, out of staters are more likely to receive a ticket. they know most out of state drivers won't fight it and will simply pay the fine.

Another item of interest I have noticed is they will make rapid speed limit changes on the same stretch of road which makes it more difficult to keep up with. Also makes it more dangerous for the drivers who have one more thing to worry about.
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Old 02-13-2012, 03:50 PM
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FWIW, I have two other tickets pending from the last month in RI based off my stupid purchase of a powerful fast car (now selling).
So the SHO is all GO?!?!
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So the SHO is all GO?!?!
yeah, something about that car brings out the inner 17 year old $hithead. Better off I sell it. When im driving that car, im a kid revving and trying to be the fastest car on the road. When I get out, im my father, asking what in the hell I think Im doing acting like a dam fool.

Im doing this with a car that was a performance sedan back in the early 90s, but now can get beat by pretty much every new car base model. Imagine what would happen if I had a NEW car with plenty of power?

Id be like Jplinville's wife, one foot almost in jail. Back to diesels for me. over 100 hp, im not interested. (well, maybe 140 hp, that way i can count 617s)
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yeah, something about that car brings out the inner 17 year old $hithead. Better off I sell it. When im driving that car, im a kid revving and trying to be the fastest car on the road. When I get out, im my father, asking what in the hell I think Im doing acting like a dam fool.

Im doing this with a car that was a performance sedan back in the early 90s, but now can get beat by pretty much every new car base model. Imagine what would happen if I had a NEW car with plenty of power?

Id be like Jplinville's wife, one foot almost in jail. Back to diesels for me. over 100 hp, im not interested. (well, maybe 140 hp, that way i can count 617s)
Yeah, try a car with 500HP on tap.


Its hard to to open that thing up.
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Let me tell you about the beauty that is the RI point system. There is none.

AH HAHAHAHA

This would be a 4pt ticket in NY, I pay the 300 plus dollars fine it will be, and won't make a single difference on my RI license.

FWIW, I have two other tickets pending from the last month in RI based off my stupid purchase of a powerful fast car (now selling).

All added up would be 10 pts in NY, which has a limit of 11 before taking your license, and severe punishments after 6 I think. I am very lucky at the moment, and should be able to pay myself out of this hole ive dug and be safe. I am not exceeding 65 from now on, ill be driving my 86 1.6 diesel VW as my personal car.

I am actually a very safe driver, but speeding is a chronic problem, and is the very reason I first bought a MB diesel. Plenty fast to get you there, but won't be creeping up to 80+ without work.
Count yourself as lucky that you don't have a 107. My darling, sweet wife has a lead foot and a driving record to prove it. She was pulled over in UT for doing 110 in an 85...TWICE!! She then proceeded to grab another one in my Lincoln in Ohio. Because of her points, I pay roughly $350 a month for insurance coverage on 4 vehicles, one of which has full coverage.

And to think...I gave her a SUV with a powerful V-8 instead of going the pedal car idea I had.
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Count yourself as lucky that you don't have a 107. My darling, sweet wife has a lead foot and a driving record to prove it. She was pulled over in UT for doing 110 in an 85...TWICE!! She then proceeded to grab another one in my Lincoln in Ohio. Because of her points, I pay roughly $350 a month for insurance coverage on 4 vehicles, one of which has full coverage.

And to think...I gave her a SUV with a powerful V-8 instead of going the pedal car idea I had.
DAMN!! I think it's time for someone to get a 240D
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DAMN!! I think it's time for someone to get a 240D
Why do you think I'm looking for a Yugo??!!??
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