The Tea Party is not really a party. They have no founder. They have very little more organization than the nuts in OSW tent camp.

Whip

That's what most on the left fail to see or understand. I'd say Tea Party, they are more organized than most think.

OWS is the visual component of a well organized behind the curtain communist movement.Your next fundamental change you will believe in.

I thought that it is the change.

Whip

I know a few TP folks. They are sorely upset with the people they worked so hard to put into office.

A good case in point is here in Oklahoma. Gov. Mary Falin was a big, big TP supporter and she used it to cruise to the Governors job. Then she forgot all about them and started in with a pro-buisness agenda. She blew her support with them once and for all when she announced she intends to push, and to push hard, to end the property-tax exemption for anyone over the age of 65.

This will, if all of her proposed tax changes go into effect, amount to an increase in taxes for those over 65 of an average of $716 a month. Business taxes, meanwhile, will go to almost zero. When backers of the TP voted this was not the change in government they had in mind.

By the way, these numbers are coming from people in the Oklahoma Ledge that I have talked to, not from any outside group. Republicans argue that this is not a tax increase since the amount of money coming into the sate will stay the same. Those over 65 tend to see it differently.

The big April 15th rallies might still take place, but I have yet to find anyone who is planning on attending.

$716 a month in property taxes?? That seems extremely high.

I'll say. That's more along the lines of Union or Essex County NJ, not Oklahoma.

V2

Because Ron Paul is so utterly unelectable, didn't you mention that?

When even those who are philosophically aligned with his views won't vote for you, then yes, he is truly unelectable.

Pooka could you please provide support for the home exemption being on the table to be pulled ? I cant find any reference to that on line.

Your definition of "unelectable" gets shakier every time.

It's apparent, they're not philosophically aligned w/ RP.
Chances are, the majority as pointed out, are nothing but "bandwagon jumpers" loaded with more disparity then innovation and no true sense of activism. In other words, they are followers rather then leaders.

Similar to your use of the term 'unelectable'. Not that you invented it. More like, you picked it up from those whose intentions are to infringe the democratic course of primary elections.

To call a perfectly electable candidate "unelectable" with whatever intend coupled to it, is not only undemocratic, but also highly unethical and with that un-American. IMO

Mistress Mary is an asshat. :(

But support for the Tea Party is not synonymous with support for the religious right. An August 2010 poll by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press and the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life found that nearly half of Tea Party supporters (46%) had not heard of or did not have an opinion about “the conservative Christian movement sometimes known as the religious right”; 42% said they agree with the conservative Christian movement and roughly one-in-ten (11%) said they disagree.

Is it true that Obama is really Gus Hall's love child? Might explain a lot about that fishy birth certificate business...

I voted for a registered Democrat in my village's last election. I'm a indie and figure myself to closer to my idea of the TP than either the R's or the D's. I've never attended a TP rally or meeting- I just want less spending, less taxes and less govt by our govt. No one polled me to find out what "I am" over the phone or otherwise- but it appears most here think I'm a strong right wing supporter and that makes me laugh. I think the TP is more of a movement/idea; not a political party. I also believe that the dorks who hate the TP have no idea who is a TP supporter and what they believe.