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Old 04-24-2012, 06:02 AM
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The War on Cheap Gas

You couldn't make this stuff up. I monitor the fair and balanced reporting and commentary on FOX now and then and last night I popped in during "The Five," a sort of round table discussion with five people, oddly enough.

At one point, the artist know as Eric Bolling spoke of the war on cheap gas, something to do with the dang demos, particularly Obummer, trying to keep affordable gas out of the hands of Americans. I wish I'd been taping it cause I'd like to hear that again. I just checked their site, they post transcripts but there's a week lag time. Wouldn't want people just reading the transcript instead of watching the show.

I'm guessing they're trying out R talking points - I know in '04 I regularly heard Bush drop lines that had been field tested by Hannity in the previous weeks. I can hear it now:

"OK, we nailed them on the dog on car thing by pointing out Obama's admission that he ate dog in Indonesia. That's right, high five, nailed it baby! Now we need to come up with something to turn this "war on women" nonsense on its head. I know! How about 'war on cheap gas?' It just might work."



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Old 04-24-2012, 09:24 AM
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I monitor the fair and balanced reporting and commentary on FOX
Nothing better to do with your time? I don't even watch that crap, and I'm a conservative. Maybe you should pick up an 'outside' hobby. Or a job that requires involvement.
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Old 04-24-2012, 01:28 PM
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Ev'body agrees fuels prices should rise in order to promote conservation. What's the big deal?
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Old 04-24-2012, 01:51 PM
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Nothing better to do with your time? I don't even watch that crap, and I'm a conservative. Maybe you should pick up an 'outside' hobby. Or a job that requires involvement.
Oh well, I just like to see how these wheels turn. I'm always being assured by my friends on the right that FOX is the only network that can be trusted and it's a bit funny to watch the sausage making/propaganda crafting going on.

And uhh, a job that requires involvement? Hmm, yeah, you might be onto something. Maybe my 20 years of living on the public dole wasn't such a good idea after all.
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Ev'body agrees fuels prices should rise in order to promote conservation. What's the big deal?
It struck as just a tad naive for these people to apparently believe that cheap gas is our birthright forever and ever. And that we'd have it to spare if not for Obama and the rest of the demo crew. The fact that India and China are increasing their fuel usage continually and that much of the easy petro has been found and been pumped for some time doesn't enter into their equation.
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Oh well, as long as we agree that gas prices should rise and that Obama has an excuse for it happening on his watch, it's all good.
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It struck as just a tad naive for these people to apparently believe that cheap gas is our birthright forever and ever. And that we'd have it to spare if not for Obama and the rest of the demo crew. The fact that India and China are increasing their fuel usage continually and that much of the easy petro has been found and been pumped for some time doesn't enter into their equation.
Solution is simple: provoke another recession, crash demand for Indian and Chinese manufactured goods. Double-dip BABY, ride those stocks DOWN! Woo-hoo!
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Oh well, I just like to see how these wheels turn. I'm always being assured by my friends on the right that FOX is the only network that can be trusted and it's a bit funny to watch the sausage making/propaganda crafting going on.

And uhh, a job that requires involvement? Hmm, yeah, you might be onto something. Maybe my 20 years of living on the public dole wasn't such a good idea after all.
That may be the first thing you've ever posted that I enjoyed reading. Congrats.
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I cant help but to accept the rise of fuel will be here soon enough but to cheer it on seems a little idiotic ,unless you have stock and alot of it in the energy field .Its then cheered as all stock crazed drones mimic ,Rise baby rise ,lets roll up those big green backs like water over a cliff ,yaaahhhhHooooo.
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I cant help but to accept the rise of fuel will be here soon enough but to cheer it on seems a little idiotic ,unless you have stock and alot of it in the energy field .Its then cheered as all stock crazed drones mimic ,Rise baby rise ,lets roll up those big green backs like water over a cliff ,yaaahhhhHooooo.
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(a) I'm actually invested in alternative energy stock, some of which may become more profitable if fossil fuel prices rise
(b) I actually think that burning fossil fuels is bad for Gaia
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:43 PM
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Oh well, as long as we agree that gas prices should rise and that Obama has an excuse for it happening on his watch, it's all good.
Should rise or will rise? I maintain a case can be made that the fact of higher gas prices in Europe and Japan than here led to their developing better cars. They had to get more bang for the buck. I saw a piece on TV the other day about air pollution in the 60s and 70s and the gas crisis during Carter's admin. I hadn't realized it but supposedly a good number of people died in NYC back then from polluted air.

They showed some people fueling up in the 70s and I'd forgotten about some of the homely behemoths we used to build in this country. I shouldn't have as I learned to drive on a '65 Continental weighing almost 3 tons. They didn't build such cars in Europe.

Does Obama have any control over oil speculators? The Saudis claimed in '08 that they were only responsible for about $70 of the $130 to $145 price per barrel. And the spot price dropped to nearly $30 by years end. How'd that happen? Is that free market activity that anybody, aside from a select few, wants or benefits from?

Perhaps it is time to limit trading in oil to those who will actually take possession of it and use it.
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I cant help but to accept the rise of fuel will be here soon enough but to cheer it on seems a little idiotic ,unless you have stock and alot of it in the energy field .Its then cheered as all stock crazed drones mimic ,Rise baby rise ,lets roll up those big green backs like water over a cliff ,yaaahhhhHooooo.
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What, you think I'm cheering it on? Oh yeah, I just love the fact that $50s are the new $20s when it comes to buying gas.
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Should rise or will rise? I maintain a case can be made that the fact of higher gas prices in Europe and Japan than here led to their developing better cars. They had to get more bang for the buck. I saw a piece on TV the other day about air pollution in the 60s and 70s and the gas crisis during Carter's admin. I hadn't realized it but supposedly a good number of people died in NYC back then from polluted air.

They showed some people fueling up in the 70s and I'd forgotten about some of the homely behemoths we used to build in this country. I shouldn't have as I learned to drive on a '65 Continental weighing almost 3 tons. They didn't build such cars in Europe.

Does Obama have any control over oil speculators? The Saudis claimed in '08 that they were only responsible for about $70 of the $130 to $145 price per barrel. And the spot price dropped to nearly $30 by years end. How'd that happen? Is that free market activity that anybody, aside from a select few, wants or benefits from?

Perhaps it is time to limit trading in oil to those who will actually take possession of it and use it.
Oh, you mean ACTUAL control. Nope, Obama doesn't have it. Neither has any other president since Richard Nixon, and that failed utterly. But that has never stopped folks of the opposite political persuasion from blaming the incumbent, especially in an election years.
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Old 04-24-2012, 08:07 PM
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Can't argue with that. And I couldn't tell you if any attempts to rein in speculators would have any effect or is even possible.
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The Finger is pointed at the smile for the camara guy with the glint off his whitened teeth.It beheves me to listen to gleeful people as others tighten their own belt.Thats where Im at and its tell will be told in the end.

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