I believe it to be fair to state that a huge proportion of those new, violent criminals in the UK are immigrants and non-whites.

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1991 560 SEC AMG, 199k <---- 300 hp 10:1 ECE euro HV ...

1995 E 420, 170k "The Red Plum" (sold)

2015 BMW 535i xdrive awd Stage 1 DINAN, 6k, <----364 hp

1967 Mercury Cougar, 49k

2013 Jaguar XF, 20k <----340 hp Supercharged, All Wheel Drive (sold)

To a large extent the same in Australia. We do have a bit of trouble with biker gang fights & criminal gang problems.
The Chinese (triads) & Vietnamese are also a problem, mainly drug related.
The only way around gun laws in Australia is to join a pistol club.
The storage requirements are over the top though.
I have this unusual habit of waking up in the middle of the night, getting the gun, returning to bed & having it there ~ I must have been cleaning it when the intruder entered the house.

Over here you can forget about the police only being a few minutes away. The emergency call people will keep you on the phone until it all goes quiet & its safe for the police to attend.

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I no longer question authority, I annoy authority. More effect, less effort....

1967 230-6 auto parts car. rust bucket.
1980 300D now parts car 800k miles
1984 300D 500k miles
1987 250td 160k miles English import
2001 jeep turbo diesel 130k miles
1998 jeep tdi ~ followed me home. Needs a turbo.
1968 Ford F750 truck. 6-354 diesel conversion.
Other toys ~J.D.,Cat & GM ~ mainly earth moving

You should be more understanding, you insensitive cad!

I am not familiar with the term "cad", but in line with your normal complimentary nature Bot, I will take it as a compliment !!

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Grumpy Old Diesel Owners Club group

I no longer question authority, I annoy authority. More effect, less effort....

1967 230-6 auto parts car. rust bucket.
1980 300D now parts car 800k miles
1984 300D 500k miles
1987 250td 160k miles English import
2001 jeep turbo diesel 130k miles
1998 jeep tdi ~ followed me home. Needs a turbo.
1968 Ford F750 truck. 6-354 diesel conversion.
Other toys ~J.D.,Cat & GM ~ mainly earth moving

I think it was a typo, I think he meant "Nad".

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Never tell people what you have.

I guess they'd be dissapointed to find out I carry a 1911 rather than an AKM, but yeah I have to agree. Never really got into that whole open carry movement, it can completely wipe out any advantage of surprise you may have.

guns are empowering and the powers that be don't want anyone to be empowered, that's how they stay in POWER. they thrive on keeping the people weak, that way the people need the police to take care of them. Dial 911 and WAIT. then pass a plethora of dis-empowering laws that make the use of a gun a crime in almost every situation which results in effectively disarming the people.

All of this results in criminals getting away with murder because they know the people are disarmed. As a result of the increase in crime, the idiots scream to hire more cops like that is going to solve the problem. meanwhile, the cops are more interested in writing traffic tickets (makes the cities a LOT more $$$$) than answering 911 calls. stupidity rules.

"Americans used to roar like Lions for Liberty; now we bleat like sheep for security"

- Norman Vincent Peale