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aklim 04-30-2012 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Clk Man (Post 2929434)
Are you willing to make that choice?

So then you approve of "Hedging your bets"? Belief in case there is said deity? What does that say about your deity?

1. Too stupid to know if you are sincere or "buying insurance"
2. Too vain to care as long as there are believers

elchivito 04-30-2012 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Clk Man (Post 2929374)
So you guys don't believe in evolution? :confused: please explain.

You seem to be under the impression that evolution teaches humans evolved from apes. It doesn't. As Kerry stated, evolutionary theory postulates that humans, and other related primates including apes and old world monkeys all descended from a common ancestor that was neither man nor ape.
For some reason, christians who don't believe in evolution (there are many who do BTW) seem determined to believe something about evolutionary theory that simply isn't, and never has been true. Why do you suppose that is? You would think, wouldn't you, that in order to be so adamantly opposed to something, the best thing to do is understand what you're against. Apparently that's not required for the faithful. :(

Rejecting evolution is not required for being Christian. You knew that, right?

aklim 04-30-2012 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 2929491)
You seem to be under the impression that evolution teaches humans evolved from apes. It doesn't. As Kerry stated, evolutionary theory postulates that humans, and other related primates including apes and old world monkeys all descended from a common ancestor that was neither man nor ape.
For some reason, christians who don't believe in evolution (there are many who do BTW) seem determined to believe something about evolutionary theory that simply isn't, and never has been true. Why do you suppose that is? You would think, wouldn't you, that in order to be so adamantly opposed to something, the best thing to do is understand what you're against. Apparently that's not required for the faithful. :(

Rejecting evolution is not required for being Christian. You knew that, right?

What has evolution got to do with anything? It stands by itself. Regardless of which way it turns out. Lets say evolution is bogus. How does that make religion right? Could both be wrong? Sure. Could both be right? Sure. What is so difficult about saying "I DON'T KNOW"? Must we have an answer? Does it matter even if you know?

Dudesky 04-30-2012 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kerry (Post 2928821)
The problem is that analytical thinking about God has basically disappeared from our culture. It used to be common.

That's part of the communist vision for Amerika.

davidmash 04-30-2012 11:06 PM

Anyone else see the irony between the above reply and the title of the thread?

aklim 04-30-2012 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dudesky (Post 2929499)
That's part of the communist vision for Amerika.

Not sure about that but even if it is so, I would say that is one thing Marx and I agree on. Die Religion ... ist das Opium des Volkes

MTI 05-01-2012 12:43 AM

From Minister to Atheist NPR:All Things Considered

MacBain, 44, was raised a conservative Southern Baptist. Her dad was a pastor and she felt the call of God when she was 6. She had questions, of course, about conflicts in the Bible, for example, or the role of women. She says she sometimes felt she was serving a taskmaster of a God, whose standards she never quite met.

For years, MacBain set her concerns aside. But when she became a United Methodist pastor nine years ago, she started asking sharper questions. She thought they'd make her faith stronger.

"In reality," she says, "as I worked through them, I found that religion had so many holes in it, that I just progressed through stages where I couldn't believe it."

MS Fowler 05-01-2012 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by elchivito (Post 2929188)
What's correct? He offered several explanations there. Are they ALL correct?

I think he meant that I correctly stated the positions.

kerry 05-01-2012 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MTI (Post 2929530)
From Minister to Atheist NPR:All Things Considered

MacBain, 44, was raised a conservative Southern Baptist. Her dad was a pastor and she felt the call of God when she was 6. She had questions, of course, about conflicts in the Bible, for example, or the role of women. She says she sometimes felt she was serving a taskmaster of a God, whose standards she never quite met.

For years, MacBain set her concerns aside. But when she became a United Methodist pastor nine years ago, she started asking sharper questions. She thought they'd make her faith stronger.

"In reality," she says, "as I worked through them, I found that religion had so many holes in it, that I just progressed through stages where I couldn't believe it."

That's an intriguing story. I'd like to know more about exactly what thoughts were going thru her mind which caused the transition.


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