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Old 05-03-2012, 10:32 PM
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Franklin Graham

Jerry Falwell, Jimmy Swaggart, Pat Robertson.


Whatever happened to these guys.
Are they still around?. I havent heard much about them after 2002.

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Jerry's dead, Jimmy's banging prostitutes and Pat is supporting the legalization of marijuana.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:52 PM
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Banned in Singapore. Have to go to Malaysia to get that.
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No kidding? I gotta say, that protects you from a lot of sinful and anti-social impurity.
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Old 05-04-2012, 07:35 AM
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Banned in Singapore. Have to go to Malaysia to get that.
I was in Singapore for 3 months in 1973.
It was a great place. I had my 22 birthday on Bugis Street, great times.
I stayed in Tanjong Paga, the seamens quarter, great bars, very Shanghai 1930.
There were no high rise, they were building the first one on the shentonway which was a lovely grass/park area with a huge rubber tree I think. Right by Collier quay. Food markets opened for lunch and at night I'd drink Tiger beer and eat satay.
There were building sites everywhere, old Sikhs slept outside banks as security guards, it was a wonderful place. The smell of curry powder from the Indian spice shop where they made it.
When I went back of couple of years later and it had changed, become like a mini New York with skyscrapers along the harbour.
The Shentonway had disappeared under a multi lane highway, with ultra modern banks lining the road.
Where was the Chinese youth hostel I stayed at, gone.
Cops everywhere, like a police state. The people were still friendly but the happy vibe had gone.
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:02 AM
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I was in Singapore for 3 months in 1973.
It was a great place. I had my 22 birthday on Bugis Street, great times.
I stayed in Tanjong Paga, the seamens quarter, great bars, very Shanghai 1930.
There were no high rise, they were building the first one on the shentonway which was a lovely grass/park area with a huge rubber tree I think. Right by Collier quay. Food markets opened for lunch and at night I'd drink Tiger beer and eat satay.
There were building sites everywhere, old Sikhs slept outside banks as security guards, it was a wonderful place. The smell of curry powder from the Indian spice shop where they made it.
When I went back of couple of years later and it had changed, become like a mini New York with skyscrapers along the harbour.
The Shentonway had disappeared under a multi lane highway, with ultra modern banks lining the road.
Where was the Chinese youth hostel I stayed at, gone.
Cops everywhere, like a police state. The people were still friendly but the happy vibe had gone.
You have an excellant memorie for detail.
The places you have described, I have only seen in pictures, or history books.
From my discussions with folks in the over-50 yr crowd, Singapore was a very cool place to be .
However modernisation has transformed this tiny island into a spinning 'Mini-Manhattan', that nevers stops, never slows down 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days out of the year.

Bugis St. is the farthest edge of the old Malaya villiage area. There, and in Little India, you can still smell the curry being made, and get a sense of old world charm/nostalgia.

The Polisi are not very evident these days..too busy escorting high profile Government official's to and fro. Mostly their activity's are quiet,covert,undercover.

The locals are still freindly..but very reserved in most cases involving a person they do not know. It just takes approaching them slowly, and in short intervals. But once that has been established they will usually take a pilgram under wing.

The only good vibe these days is when one has a meal, goes shopping, takes a holiday.
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Back to the original topic....
Seeing no answer re: Franklin Graham, I checked Wiki. According them he is President of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Assoc. and Samaritan's Purse.
AFAIK, he is not engaged in any activity that would have him grouped with the others.
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:59 AM
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Back to the original topic....
Seeing no answer re: Franklin Graham, I checked Wiki. According them he is President of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Assoc. and Samaritan's Purse.
AFAIK, he is not engaged in any activity that would have him grouped with the others.
Perhaps, but it looks as though he remains controversial.

WiKi: On february 28, 2012 Franklin Graham responded to a one page letter sent by the NAACP in that they were calling on him on his comments about Obama's faith. In closing , the open letter stated "We call on Rev. Graham and all Christian leaders to exemplify this essential teaching of Jesus and refrain from using Christanity as a weapon of political division".

Graham publicly appoligised. I recall that he found himself at odds with the Bush administration after the events of 9/11.
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Perhaps, but it looks as though he remains controversial.

WiKi: On february 28, 2012 Franklin Graham responded to a one page letter sent by the NAACP in that they were calling on him on his comments about Obama's faith. In closing , the open letter stated "We call on Rev. Graham and all Christian leaders to exemplify this essential teaching of Jesus and refrain from using Christanity as a weapon of political division".

Graham publicly appoligised. I recall that he found himself at odds with the Bush administration after the events of 9/11.
Taking some heat for a religious POV is different from taking heat for philandering.
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Taking some heat for a religious POV is different from taking heat for philandering.
I don't recall seeing Graham take heat for religious views. He has taken heat for his bigotry, as did the late Jerry Falwell. At least Falwell seemed acknowledge his failings and recognized that people with opposing view points are not necessarily evil. I am not sure that Graham can say the same.

As for what Jerry's up to these days, he may be gone, but his memory lives on in Lynchburg, Virginia. You see his imprint everywhere you turn in that town.

Pat Robertson, meanwhile, is living happily in Virginia Beach, spending all the blood money he made with his friends in Liberia and Zaire. Thug Life: TV Preacher Pat Robertson Hangs With A Bad Crowd | Americans United

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www.islamophobia.com Graham is here again saying the Muslim Brotherhood has in filtrated the White House (type franklin graham in their search section).

IMHO Graham is grasping at straws, and doesnt seem to be grounded in reality.

In response to Graham's public opinion, I thought the response from AMAF, and the VAC were very tastefull.

They said: " It is the position of the American Muslim Armed Forces and Veterans Affairs Council that Franklin Graham has the right to his faiths and beliefs.
Franklin Graham's message may be one that brings discord and strikes against good order and discipline, but it is still a message that some of his followers agree with.
Franklin Graham doesnt think highly of Islam, but that is his position, and we feel he has a Constitutional right to voice his position.
Regardless, we want it to be clear, that Franklin Graham, we may not like the words you speak, but what is worse is you not having the opportunity to speak them at all".

Very eloquent words to someone who shows/speaks their obvious displeasure.
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Graham is whacked. Unimaginative clone of his dad regurgitating right wing drivel. Hey, it pays the bills.
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Graham is whacked. Unimaginative clone of his dad regurgitating right wing drivel. Hey, it pays the bills.
I do not even think he is even a clone of his father. I believe that his father was a more reasonable thinker.

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